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Russia SARH vs Command Guidance #1265

Open HVAA opened 2 years ago

HVAA commented 2 years ago

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Affected DBID(s)

All of the stated SAM's

Summary of Changes

Many of the missiles in the game use SARH and I have never understood this unless of course its to simplify game mechanics. The following systems use Command Guidance:

  1. SA-2 all variants
  2. SA- 3 all variants
  3. SA-4
  4. SA-8
  5. SA-15
  6. SA-19
  7. SA-22 There are many visual clues to this on both missile and tracking radar. Most have rear facing antenna's (beacon transponder aerials) or flares (if optically tracked).

There are several variants of command guidance used here including CLOS, SACLOS, ACLOS, Full Lead, Partial Lead...

As I think that this may be me stating the obvious, I have only included the first two with image references. Its one of the reasons these early beasts fired so many missiles in a salvo.

Sources

I dont want to teach you to suck eggs, but this explains to the casual reader how this guidance works

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_guidance SA-2 note the near identical Command Guidance dish on the systems. And B/F is TWS so could not illuminate ever.
  2. Fansong B/F https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SNR-75_at_B52_Victory_Museum_20060214.jpg
  3. Fansong C/E https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SNR-75M3_Fan_Song_E.jpg SA-3
  4. Note the four evenly spaced transponder aerials on the rear fins of the second stage https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Neva_S-125_1.jpg cant get a good angle on the Low Blow, but it is another TWS set up so cannot illuminate.
KLABDB3K commented 2 years ago

This was a game fix. I think its was raised on the old forum a few times. It does make a fundamental difference given how many systems can be cued by the onboard optical systems without emissions.

HVAA commented 2 years ago

Might have been by me on a different username, I need to check for any email confirmations I got back then. Certainly EO plus a tiny bit of MG would make a huge difference to system survivability.