MiG-23BN corrections

[PavelNovak79]

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all MiG-23BN

Summary of Changes

Suggested corrections to all MiG-23BN (Flogger H) entries for both DB3K and CWDB:

1) Setting arc of internal DECM (SPS-141/142/143 Gvozdika and/or SPS-141M Siren) to cover only frontal 180°

• see here discussion about it: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10201&t=373623&start=120

2) Remove chaff / flare dispenser"KDS-23 x 2" from all MiG-23BN (except iraqi entry 1367 in DB3K as this entry represents somehow upgraded variant)

• standard MiG-23BN doesn't have chaff / flare dispenser - see here mention that "upward-firing chaff-flare dispenser" was installed only on MiG-27: https://www.airvectors.net/avmig23_2.html

3.1) Correction to maximum weapons load (currently 4 metric tons)

• MiG-23BN can carry maximum of 3 metric tons of ordnance - see comment "Total external load was up to 3,000 kilograms" again here: https://www.airvectors.net/avmig23_2.html

• proposed changes to loadout:

a. loadout "6x FAB-250M-54 with 3x 800 liter Drop Tank, hi-lo-hi and lo-lo-lo" change to "6x FAB-250M-54 with 1x 800 liter Drop Tank" b. loadout "8x FAB-500M-54, hi-lo-hi and lo-lo-lo" change to "6x FAB-500M-54" c. loadout "6x FAB-500M-54 with 3x 800 liter Drop Tank, hi-lo-hi and lo-lo-lo" change to "4x FAB-500M-54 with 1x 800 liter Drop Tank" d. loadout (soviet and russian one) "4x FAB-500M-62 with 3x 800 liter Drop Tank, hi-lo-hi and lo-lo-lo" change to"4x FAB-500M-62 with 1x 800 liter Drop Tank" e. loadout "6x OFAB-250-270 with 3x 800 liter Drop Tank, hi-lo-hi and lo-lo-lo" change to "6x FOFAB-250-270 with 1x 800 liter Drop Tank"

3.2) Loadout addition to non-soviet-warsaw-pact MiG-23BN (copy from soviet one)

• add following proposed loadouts to Bulgarian, Czechoslovak and East German MiG-23BN: a. loadout "1x RN-28 Tactical Bomb with 3x 800 liter Drop Tank, hi-lo-hi and lo-lo-lo" - WarPac fighter-bombers were nuclear capable and in case of WarPac vs NATO confrontation would receive soviet nuclear bombs - see discussion here: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10237&t=374440&p=4907719

b. loadouts with newer bombs: "6x FAB-500M-62, hi-lo-hi and lo-lo-lo" "4x FAB-500M-62 with 1x 800 liter Drop Tank, hi-lo-hi and lo-lo-lo"

• NSWP countries get new bombs around 1970s - see this picture of bulgarian with new bombs: https://www.flickriver.com/photos/41124607@N06/4168913459/ http://www.easternorbat.com/html/mig-23bn_bulgarian_services_en.html

Sources

Discussions on Matrix: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10201&t=373623&start=120 https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10237&t=374440&p=4907719

Airvectors page: https://www.airvectors.net/avmig23_2.html

Eastern orbat page: http://www.easternorbat.com/html/mig-23bn_bulgarian_services_en.html

[PavelNovak79]

I have corrected myself: from 3.2) proposed new loadout for warsaw pact ones I have deleted proposal for bombs FAB-250M-62. I have clear evidence for Bulgarian (see sources) and Czechoslovak FAB-500M-62 and I believe that East Germans got them too. But I have checked again some czech sources and I actually could not find FAB-250M-62 in czechoslovak inventory so I have deleted it from the proposal.

[PavelNovak79]

Looking more to nuclear bombs which would be available to non-soviet warsaw pact countries in case of ww3 - they trained with IAB-500 training bomb imitating 8U49 nuclear bomb which is RN-28. Original post edited so RN-28 is requested instead of RN-40.

https://www.valka.cz/IAB-500-imitacna-puma-t89534