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T-AGM-12 American Mariner - Tracking Ship #2983

Closed tbrandon517 closed 1 year ago

tbrandon517 commented 1 year ago

DB Selector

CWDB

DBID to Copy

ship 2285

Hypothetical

No

Name

T-AGM-12 American Mariner

Country

United States

Service

Army (1958-1963), Air Force (1963-1964), Navy (1964-1966)

In Commission

1959-1966

Number in Service

1x

Sensors

RCA C-band-frequency narrow-beam tracking radar RCA L-band-frequency narrow-beam tracking radar RCA UHF-band-frequency narrow-beam tracking radar Infra-red systems, optics 70 mm cameras, AGAVE

The primary tracking radars were CBAND radars, which once locked onto their target were accurate within 6.1 metres (20 ft) at a distance of 2,000 kilometres (1,200 mi). The L-Band radar dish was straddled by the twin C-Band radar dishes.

Mounts

None

Loadout Options

N/A

Other Changes

No response

Sources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAS_American_Mariner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAMP_Project https://vesselhistory.marad.dot.gov/ShipHistory/Detail/210 http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/53/09531201.jpg

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PygmalionOfCyprus commented 1 year ago

Can you try to dig up a little extra data for the AN/FPQ-4 and the mysterious "L Band radar"? Range and power at a bare minimum, just something to build off of. I can also take a similar contemporary platform if you find info for something that came before/after. Sensor data is all that's stopping me from easily handling this and #2981.

tbrandon517 commented 1 year ago

@PygmalionOfCyprus I located these items for the AN/FPQ-4 C-Band Radars. They appear to be a precursor to AN/FPQ-6 and analogous to the AN/FPS-16

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD0260721.pdf https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD0654925.pdf https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19700010585/downloads/19700010585.pdf https://transition.fcc.gov/ib/files/1_08_02/ntia_sec2.pdf https://wsmrmuseum.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/AN-FPS-16-Context-June-2016.pdf https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/6586150 https://www.shipscribe.com/usnaux2/AGM/AGM12.html https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19660006851/downloads/19660006851.pdf https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/DARPA/22-F-0430_Doc_1_ARPA_Order_Summary_1958-1976.pdf https://archive.org/stream/history-of-magnetron/history%20of%20monopulse%20radar%20in%20us_djvu.txt https://www.liquisearch.com/anfps-16 https://smartencyclopedia.org/content/list-of-military-electronics-of-the-united-states/

PygmalionOfCyprus commented 1 year ago

Yeah, the L-band is the real challenging one.

tbrandon517 commented 1 year ago

@PygmalionOfCyprus

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Project_DAMP

I think the combined L/UHF Band array may be akin to a scaled down (30 ft vs 60 ft dish) AN/FPS-80

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Surveillance_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/FPS-17 https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/01.oth/karte013.en.html https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/f/from-sea-stars.html https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA995287.pdf - This one how power/frequency for the L/UHF set https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19660007629/downloads/19660007629.pdf https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/217147896.pdf https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19680025550/downloads/19680025550.pdf

tbrandon517 commented 1 year ago

@PygmalionOfCyprus Sources also indicate a AN/FPS-12 for local air control

PygmalionOfCyprus commented 1 year ago

When convenient, can you open separate sensor requests for the AN/FPQ-4 and not-AN/FPS-80 with info filled in as possible or guesstimated based on similar platforms / estimations where possible? Bonus points for the AN/FPS-12, although I'm more comfortable just copying a generic ATC radar for that one since local air control isn't exactly the major selling point of these ships. :P

tbrandon517 commented 1 year ago

When convenient, can you open separate sensor requests for the AN/FPQ-4 and not-AN/FPS-80 with info filled in as possible or guesstimated based on similar platforms / estimations where possible? Bonus points for the AN/FPS-12, although I'm more comfortable just copying a generic ATC radar for that one since local air control isn't exactly the major selling point of these ships. :P

Sure probably on Wednesday

tbrandon517 commented 1 year ago

@PygmalionOfCyprus submitted as #3935 and #3937 for radars. My first real attempt at a radar item so be gentle.

PygmalionOfCyprus commented 1 year ago

Handled 503.