Open ghost opened 2 years ago
ghost
commented
2 years ago Sorry, meant to label CWDB only. Edited it so should be fixed now. Also, I understand this is a rather complicated facility request. Lots of new radars, missiles. It would be greatly appreciated if it can be added sometime in the future! Thank you
PygmalionOfCyprus
commented
2 years ago Technically a duplicate of #208 but has more info so will leave this guy open and tag/close the other.
PygmalionOfCyprus
commented
2 years ago Duplicate of #208
ghost
commented
2 years ago Unfortunately I feel as if this request is way too hypothetical in nature, even though the weapon itself is currently in service. It's just that the ranges let alone more detailed specs of all the radars and missiles are not known and wont be for at least multiple years if not 5-10+ years. We can only speculate. There are too many different radars involved and possibly more than 3 missiles. This is a very hard system to speculate or even work on.
Basically all we know is max ABM range of 600km and max Anti-air range of 500km. Max ABM synchronized radars have range of 3000km(1.5m), or 1300km (0.1m2) in anti-air mode. Everything is not complete let alone verified.
So again, I fully understand if you guys wont be able to manage integrating this into the game in the foreseeable future.
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DB Selector
CWDB
Hypothetical
No
Name
55R6M Triumfator-M
Facility Type
SAM
Country
Russia
Service
Air Defense
In Commission
2022
Crew
8
Dispersion Radius (m)
20
Sensors
1x 91N6A(M) AESA upgrade of the previous Big Bird D - acquisition and battle management radar, a modification of the 91N6 (Big Bird) towed by the BAZ-6403.01 8x8 tractor 1x 96L6-TsP acquisition radar, an AESA upgraded version of the previous 96L6 (Cheese Board) on BAZ-69096 10x10 1x 76T6 AESA multimode anti-air engagement radar on BAZ-6909-022 8x8 (new design) 1x 77T6 AESA ABM engagement radar on BAZ-69096 10x10 (new design) 1x 77P6 launch vehicle, based on the BAZ-69096 10x10 truck (for 77N6-N/77N6-N1 missiles) 1x 5P85SE2 launch vehicle (for 40N6M missiles) 1x 55K6MA command post, based on BAZ-69092-12 6x6 (for air defense) 1x 85Zh6-2 command posts, based on BAZ-69092-12 6x6 (for ABM defense)
Mounts
4x 77P6 Tel (2x 77N6-N Missile per Tel) 4x 77P6 Tel (2x 77N6-N1 Missile per Tel) 4x 5P85SE2 Tel (4x 40N6(M) Missile per Tel) 12 Tel Total
Magazines
8x 77N6-N Missiles 8x 77N6-N1 Missiles 16x 40N6M Missiles (32 missiles total)
Aircraft & Docking Facilities
No response
Comments
First battery reported operational in early 2022. Max missile range against ballistic missile is reported at ~330nm and or at an altitude of ~110nm, and against aircraft the max range is ~280nm at an altitude of ~110nm. All info based off reports/websites online that are available when searching for S-500 info.
Radar Ranges for Ballistic Missile targets (estimated from reports): (Source: https://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_russian_missile_system_vehicle_uk/s-500_prometheus_55r6m_triumfator-m_air_defense_missile_data_pictures_video.html)
Radar Ranges for aircraft type targets (estimated from reports): Source: https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/07/natos-worst-nightmare-russias-s-500-air-defense-system-has-arrived/)
**When all radars are synchronized in a battery, "the max radar range reaches a radius of 3,000 km (1,300 km for the EPR 0.1 square meter" Or 3,000km for a 1m2 target. So 702nm for a 0.1m2 target and 1620nm for a 1m2 target (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-500_missile_system)
The S-500 is designed for intercepting and destroying [intercontinental ballistic missiles], as well as [hypersonic cruise missiles and aircraft, for [air defense] against [Airborne Early Warning and Control]and for jamming aircraft. With a planned range of 600 km (370 mi) for anti-ballistic missile (ABM) and 500 km (310 mi) for air defense the S-500 would be able to detect and simultaneously engage up to 10 ballistic hypersonic targets flying at a speed of 5 kilometers per second (3.1 mi/s; 18,000 km/h; 11,000 mph) to a limit of 7 km/s (4.3 mi/s; 25,000 km/h; 16,000 mph). It also aims at destroying hypersonic cruise missiles and other aerial targets at speeds of higher than Mach 5, as well as spacecraft.[[citation needed. The altitude of a target engaged can be [as high as 180–200 km (110–120 mi)." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-500_missile_system)
New Missiles Used:
*Can engage up to 10 hypersonic ballistic missiles simultaneously
*Each S-500 missile can be guided during mid-course flight by the Voronezh-DM/Voronezh-VP, and Don-2 radars if its semi-active receiver becomes blind. "reports by Almaz-Antey say that the external target-designation system will be capable of mid-early flight portion interceptions of enemy ballistic missiles" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-500_missile_system#cite_note-rg.ru-22)
Sources
https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/s-500-prometheus/ https://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_russian_missile_system_vehicle_uk/s-500_prometheus_55r6m_triumfator-m_air_defense_missile_data_pictures_video.html https://www.deagel.com/Artillery%20Systems/S-500/a002423 https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/77t6.htm https://cybershafarat.com/2021/10/15/russian-army-s-500-defense-system/ https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/07/natos-worst-nightmare-russias-s-500-air-defense-system-has-arrived/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-500_missile_system#cite_note-rg.ru-22