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P-911 Tisa (Una-class, Type 911) #367

Open tbrandon517 opened 2 years ago

tbrandon517 commented 2 years ago

DB Selector

DB3K

Baseline

N/A

Hypothetical

No

Name

P-911 Tisa (Una-class, Type 911)

Class

P-911 Tisa (Una-class, Type 911)

Country

Yugoslavia/Serbia/Croatia

Service

Navy

In Commission

1983-2005

Length (m)

18.8m (20.9m Velebit)

Beam (m)

3m

Draft (m)

2.5m

Standard Displacement (t)

76 (88 Velebit)

Submerged Displacement (t)

88 (99 Velebit)

Empty Displacement (t)

Not disclosed

Max Depth (m)

105

Complement

4 + 6 swimmers

Primary Propulsion Type

Electric (UUVs)

Propulsion

2 × 18 kW (24 hp) electric motor (1 diesel-generator, 2 Koncar electric motors - Velebit)

Flank Speed at Surface (kt)

7/8 (8 Velebit)

Flank Speed Submerged (kt)

8/11 (11 Velebit)

Range (nm) at Speed (kt)

250–270 nmi at 3 knots (500nm @ 8kts Diesels/ 135nm @ 3kts Batteries - Veledit)

Range (nm) on AIP

N/A

Fuel Capacity (kg)

batteries only (uncertain for Velebit)

Sensors

Optical; Periscope (Velebit - radar, PP-10, PSU-1-2 sonars)

Mounts

Racks for Mines or SDVs

Magazines

4 × R-1swimmer delivery vehicles or 4 × AIM-70 bottom mines or 6-12 x Limpet Mines

Comms/Datalinks

VHF/UHF Radio

sub Codes

Snorkel

Comments

P914 Zeta captured by Croatia 1991 and renamed P-01 Velebit, it was put through a modernization which saw a diesel generator fitted to greatly improve its endurance as well as upgraded sensors. This came at the expensive of some batteries.

Conflicting data on surface/submerged top speed. Provided the high and low numbers from sources. May actually be full/flank.

Sources

http://www.hisutton.com/Yugo_X-Craft.html http://navypedia.org/ships/yugoslavia/yu_ss_tisa.htm https://www.navypedia.org/ships/croatia/cro_ss_velebit.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Una-class_submarine

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P-01 Velebit image

nuk92 commented 2 years ago

I'd like to add a few things to this request:

Ratni Brodovi Jugoslavenske Ratne Mornarice 1945-1991, Zvonimir Freivogel, Zagreb 2021, ISBN: 9789533660042 https://imgur.com/Ug2jhoo https://imgur.com/N9YONAF

The periscope was the most advanced which Yugo subs ever had and has night vision. The Una Class would have been used for reconnaissance missions near enemy shores aswell:

https://images.24ur.com/media/images/1200xX/Apr2019/c2ec69cc15_62235688.jpg?v=d41d https://imgur.com/uDeUDsv

Periskop Barr&Stroud CK032 opremljen za nocno opazovanje

Periscope Barr & Stroud CK032 equipped for night observation

https://imgur.com/Mo6yOko

The Barr & Stroud periscope has excellent optical properties and the possibility of night observation, but they did not buy an azimuth plate connected to a gyrocompass that would allow the submarine commander to directly read the azimuth in the eyepiece.

Periskop Barr&Stroud ima odlicne opticne lastnosti in moznost nocnega opazovanja, niso pa kupili azimut plosce povezame s zirokompasom ki bi poveljniku podmornice omogucile neposredno odcitavanje azimuta v okularju.

nuk92 commented 2 years ago

CK032 periscope: #2228