PygmalionOfCyprus / cmo-db-requests

Public issue/request tracking for the Command: Modern Operations database
51 stars 17 forks source link

F-23 Black Widow 2024 #398

Closed TempestII closed 2 years ago

TempestII commented 2 years ago

DB Selector

DB3K

Baseline

4107

Hypothetical

Yes

Name

F-23 Black Widow II

Country

USA

Service

USAF

In Commission

2024+

Length (m)

Same as #4107

Wingspan (m)

Same as #4107

Height (m)

Same as #4107

Empty Weight (kg)

Same as #4107

Maximum Takeoff Weight (MTOW) (kg)

Same as #4107

Payload Weight (kg)

Same as #4107

Crew

1

Propulsion

Same as #4107

Rate of Climb (ft/min)

Same as #4107

Service Ceiling (ft)

60000

Military/Afterburner Speed (kt)

Same as #4107

Cruise Speed (kt)

Same as #4107

Supercruise

Yes

Ferry Range (nm)

Same as #4107

Endurance (min)

Same as #4107

Takeoff / Landing Distance (m)

Same as #4107

Fuel Capacity (kg)

Same as #4107

Sensors

Same as F-22A Raptor 2024.

Mounts

x1 20mm M61A2 Cannon.

Loadout Options

x8 AIM-120D x2 AIM-9X Block III Or x8 AIM-260 x2 AIM-9X Block III

Otherwise, similar to the F-22A Raptor 2024.

Comms/Datalinks

Same as F-22A Raptor 2024.

Aircraft Codes

Supermanouverability, Fly-by-Wire, Night Navigation (Ferry, Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Bombsight - Advanced Navigation (INS/GPS), Helmet Mounted Sight / Display (HMS/HMD), Boom Refuelling

Comments

All variants of the F-23 should be slightly stealthier than the F-22.

“...the USAF ATF requirements did not require the ATF design to have a lot of agility. The USAF was looking for a stealth fighter that would have a significant time differential between the ATF and the bandit’s discovery of the ATF. For Northrop, the aft deck of the YF-23A was one of the key stealth features of Northrop’s ATF design. Northrop chose stealth over agility to meet the USAF specifications. Northrop’s aft deck design shielded the aircraft from horizontal and look up threats by hiding the exhaust. Lockheed did the opposite, they chose agility over stealth for the design of the aft section of their YF-22A.”

The F-23 should be able to carry air-to-ground munitions. Later models should also be able to carry a larger complement of air-to-air missiles with rotary or trapeze launches.

_"A big, deep weapons bay is great for air-to-ground applications, but it does invite potentially unwanted complexity for air-to-air applications. By stacking missiles above other missiles, it means that if one jammed, the ones behind it would not be usable—or worse. It also meant that an elaborate missile handling and launching mechanism would be required. This could add substantial weight and complexity to the design, and thus increase risk and possibly cost associated with it. At the same time, a big, deep, trough-like weapons compartment meant that the YF-23 could potentially carry substantial air-to-ground stores, including 2,000lb class weapons, and possibly even larger. Such a bay could also be subdivided for different types of off smaller weapons to be carried at one time.

By most accounts, this configuration would have allowed for four or maybe five AIM-120s and a pair of sidewinders to be carried, but some claim that elaborate and complex AIM-120 carriage contraptions could have drastically increased this to as many as eight or even 10 AIM-120s

Like so many things YF-23, in retrospect, an ATF that could carry a diverse air-to-ground weapons load, including munitions capable of taking out large and well fortified targets—and especially a fighter that had better kinematic, range, and low observable (stealth) performance than even the YF-22—would be a near ideal combat aircraft today."_

Sources

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24911/this-is-what-a-northrop-f-23a-wouldve-looked-like-if-lockheed-lost-the-atf-competition

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23993/the-yf-23s-weapons-bay-layout-was-one-of-its-best-features-and-one-of-its-worst

https://reviews.ipmsusa.org/review/northrup-yf-23-atf

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/exclusive-yf-23a-thermal-designer-provides-interesting-details-northrop-atf/

KushanGaming commented 2 years ago

Done for DB495.

TempestII commented 2 years ago

Legend! Cheers.