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Aircraft #463 DB3K - Mi-28N Havoc - 2011 Russia shouldn't have AT-15 Load out. Air launched VM version did not enter service until circa 2018-2019 #4038
AT-15 air launched equates to 9M123 VM system. The 9M123VM wasn't integrated until MI-28NM trials in Syria and laterly Ukraine experience post 2018. The avionics of Mi-28N couldn't guide the laser or MmW SARH command guided AT-15 9M123VM without modifications and would require an additional MMW radar pod on one pylon to use the MmW microwave data link guidance channel.
Later variant MI-28NM has the required laser command guidance for the AT-15 and nose mounted MmW microwave guidance link built in. Old model Mi-28 would need pylon mounted podded MmW microwave guidance link to carry AT-15 or later sight unit which has the laser command guidance upgrade and would thus lose one pylon of stores to use MmW microwave guidance mode.
Export variant (confusingly also called MI-28NM in some data but also Mi-28NE) is Not the same as the domestic MI-28NM as the former retains the Snoopy looking radio transmitter nose whilst the later domestic RUAF has the microwave data link for both AT-15 and LMUR built into the nose.
So in short please remove AT-15 Springer load out from 2011 version. Possibly create Mi-28N post 2020 with AT-15 load outs but with a pod mounted MmW radar, reduce number of missiles to 8 not 16, plus add the Vitebsk series DIRCM, ECM, Maws etc.
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DB3K
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Aircraft 463 MI-28N Russia
Summary of Changes
Remove AT-15 load out from existing entry.
AT-15 air launched equates to 9M123 VM system. The 9M123VM wasn't integrated until MI-28NM trials in Syria and laterly Ukraine experience post 2018. The avionics of Mi-28N couldn't guide the laser or MmW SARH command guided AT-15 9M123VM without modifications and would require an additional MMW radar pod on one pylon to use the MmW microwave data link guidance channel. Later variant MI-28NM has the required laser command guidance for the AT-15 and nose mounted MmW microwave guidance link built in. Old model Mi-28 would need pylon mounted podded MmW microwave guidance link to carry AT-15 or later sight unit which has the laser command guidance upgrade and would thus lose one pylon of stores to use MmW microwave guidance mode. Export variant (confusingly also called MI-28NM in some data but also Mi-28NE) is Not the same as the domestic MI-28NM as the former retains the Snoopy looking radio transmitter nose whilst the later domestic RUAF has the microwave data link for both AT-15 and LMUR built into the nose. So in short please remove AT-15 Springer load out from 2011 version. Possibly create Mi-28N post 2020 with AT-15 load outs but with a pod mounted MmW radar, reduce number of missiles to 8 not 16, plus add the Vitebsk series DIRCM, ECM, Maws etc.
Sources
Many of the former links to Russian websites are now defunct. https://www.cavok.com.br/imagens-russia-apresenta-mi-28nm-modernizado-de-acordo-com-experiencia-operacional-na-siria This article has a photo of the podded radar required to use the AT-15 with the legacy Mi-28N.
https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.blogspot.com/2021/12/anti-tank-missile-chrysanthemum-to-arm.html?m=1 https://rg.ru/2021/12/02/protivotankovoj-raketoj-hrizantema-vooruzhat-vertolety.html This is dated 2021 and speaks of AT-15 being introduced when modified for the KA-52 and Mi-28NM not that it is in service. https://vpk.name/en/512103_the-source-said-how-many-new-missiles-product-305-will-be-able-to-carry-the-mi-28nm-attack-helicopter.html Supposedly 4 x Idz-305 LMUR. https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tech/333859-everything-known-about-latest-mi-28nm
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russias-mi-28nm-attack-helicopter-seen-using-new-anti-armor-missile-in-ukraine
https://www.military.africa/2023/09/russian-mi-28nm-night-hunter-achieves-first-uav-kill/
https://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/news/defense-aviation-news/2020/december/6745-russian-mod-approves-mi-28nm-combat-helicopter-delivery-schedule.html