R91 Charles de Gaulle final upgrade

gosnold commented 8 months ago

DB Selector

DB3K

Baseline

2754

Hypothetical

No

Name

R91 Charles de Gaulle

Class

Charles de Gaulle - class

Country

France

Service

Navy

In Commission

2028-2038

Number in Service

1x

Length (m)

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Beam (m)

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Draft (m)

unchanged

Standard Displacement (t)

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Full Displacement (t)

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Empty Displacement (t)

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Complement

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Max Sea State

No response

Primary Propulsion Type

Diesel

Propulsion

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Fuel Capacity (kg)

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Flank Speed (kt)

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Range (nm) at Speed (kt)

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Sensors

Add Seafire AESA radar (sensor # 5990) Remove Arabel radar and SMART S radar

Mounts

Replace 2x Sylver A-43 (with Aster 15 only) with 2x Sylver A-50 (with Aster 15, 30 or 30 Block 1 NT)

Aircraft & Docking Facilities

unchanged

Comms/Datalinks

unchanged

Ship Codes

No response

Comments

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Sources

https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/a-partir-de-2027-la-france-devra-faire-sans-son-porte-avions-pendant-18-mois-989530.html

https://twitter.com/DGA/status/1753121477828731249

ITR is installation de tir reconfigurable, reconfigurable fire installation (ie a VLS able to use several missile models and switch between them easily, so it's an upgraded A 50)

claudejdev commented 8 months ago

(not a Diesel propulsion, @gosnold ;) )

ID 2754

CS Gen: should be CS Gen 6 (2001-2029), with an Ergonomy of Good level
Comms: replace Syracuse III SATCOM with Syracuse IV SATCOM
Link 22 replaces Link 11
Carrier Magazine (all iterations of that class): 4x ASMP(-A) (max 10) ***

That new, and last, upgrade should have CS Gen 7 (2030+).

Sensor: replace SMART-S Mk2 by ID 5990 Sea Fire x4 (#4269)

https://www.opex360.com/2024/02/02/le-contrat-relatif-au-troisieme-arret-technique-majeur-du-porte-avions-charles-de-gaulle-a-ete-notifie/

*** Le porte-avions Charles-de-Gaulle Tome 3, Son groupe aérien embarqué. SPE Barthélémy ISBN 9782912838278 (2005)

gosnold commented 8 months ago

I think Sea fire also (or maybe only) replaces the Arabel as fire control radar. Smart S was installed in 2017, Arabel has been there since the beginning

I agree with your proposed changes for the ucrrent version post-2018 ID 2754

PS I know it's not Diesel, it's the default choice, I wanted to put unchanged

gosnold commented 8 months ago

A good argument for keeping the SMART S is that it's the highest radar in the mast once Arabel is gone. So for alert against sea skimmers I think they will keep it.

Seafire will probably be at mid mast like the DRBV 26

claudejdev commented 8 months ago

I agree, @gosnold that the Arabel can be removed too, as, you are right, the Sea Fire will, also, serve as an FCR.

I don't believe the SMART-S will be kept. I bet it will be reused to upgrade another ship.

gosnold commented 8 months ago

Actually you are right, SMART-S is at mid mast so it will probably be removed too. The one on top of the mast is the DRBV-15C that I think will be kept for sea skimmer alert. I updated the request accordingly.

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