v0.0.20 ADMS compile difficulties

ma-laforge commented 3 years ago

I created a simple VerilogA V(out, xGND) <+ abs(V(in, xGND)) test block in 2015 that worked magnificently in March 2015 (whatever version of Qucs was available then).

I wanted to experiment further with Qucs' VerilogA capabilities - so I installed v0.0.20 using apt, as outlined in -->http://qucs.sourceforge.net/install.html.

...but I hit a few walls:

Opened my V_absolute.va verilog-A model
Clicked Project|Build Verilog-A module...

Noticed the "make" statement in admsXml Dock:

make -f /usr/include/qucs-core/va2cpp.makefile ADMSXML=/usr/bin/admsXml PREFIX=/usr MODEL=V_absolute

But wait! Qucs did not install /usr/include/qucs-core!
Ok, after reading a bit, I found that qucs-core was renamed --> qucsator.
Ok!? so I run sudo ln -s qucsator qucs-core
Awesome! simulation starts... but now I get a message that disciplines.vams cannot be found.
...Neither can I!?! Plus my version of admsXml is old (circa 2015!?)
So I download the latest release of ADMS (v2.3.7).

And I install from tarball as explained in the README:

tar xvfz adms-x.x.x.tar.gz
cd adms-x.x.x
./configure --prefix=/usr
make install

Awesome! I now have a disciplines.vams & constants.vams in /usr/include/adms
I also have a recent version of admsXms now!

I think there are issues

with the ADMS distribution bundled with Qucs. It was sort of tough to get up and running.

felix-salfelder commented 3 years ago

On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 09:01:24AM -0700, ma-laforge wrote:

I wanted to experiment further with Qucs' VerilogA capabilities - so I installed v0.0.20 using apt, as outlined in -->http://qucs.sourceforge.net/install.html.

Thanks for your feedback.

There is no "v0.0.20" (yet), and you might have installed an unofficial package. I can see references to ppa:qucs/qucs in install.html, did you use this (and what is it)?

I think there are issues

with the ADMS distribution bundled with Qucs. It was sort of tough to get up and running.

The develop branch does no longer bundle anything. There is a qucs-pkg repo for the purpose of bundling. It is neither complete, nor has it ever been released. There is some work to do... I believe you found an inconsistency that could be fixed (some broken reference to qucsator files).

You could also try the 0.0.20-rc2 snapshot.

ma-laforge commented 3 years ago

Apologies if I don't answer all your questions correctly. I am not 100% certain what you are asking me to do.

My installation

I can see references to ppa:qucs/qucs in install.html, did you use this (and what is it)?

Yes. I applied the procedure that appeared to be the most common with Ubuntu installations I have done in the past:

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:qucs/qucs
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install qucs

I am using Ubuntu 18.04 (64-bit), so it installed the following version (screen grab from Synaptic package manager):

Better installation method

You could also try the 0.0.20-rc2 snapshot.

I got something to work at the moment, so I'll stick with it for now. But out of curiosity, if I were to install it, would I apply the following procedure?:

tar xvfz qucs[version].tar.gz
cd qucs[version]
./configure
make install

(using the tarball in the releases section)?

felix-salfelder commented 3 years ago

On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 07:01:35PM -0700, ma-laforge wrote:

I got something to work at the moment, so I'll stick with it for now. But out of curiosity, if I were to install it, would I apply the following procedure?:
tar xvfz qucs[version].tar.gz
cd qucs[version]
./configure
make install

Yes. Tags in the git repo should correspond to the tarball version, so you could obtain the code from git as well. But bootstrapping is required, which has more dependencies. Results may vary.

You have noticed that Qucs is not part of Debian/Ubuntu, or any other major distro. The reason is that Qt<=4 has been phased out. Packages from third parties such as ppa do exist and involve workarounds, but may be less reliable.

felix-salfelder commented 3 years ago

Please reopen if you have further questions or refer to the other tickets about 0.0.20.

Qucs / qucs