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this is a very serious problem #443

Closed Peter11-1 closed 1 year ago

Peter11-1 commented 1 year ago

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GeckoEidechse commented 1 year ago

I'm sorry but I have no idea what this is about, closing as unrelated.

uniboi commented 1 year ago

what

pg9182 commented 1 year ago

I'm having a hard time understanding this too, but I believe they are complaining about players (on either Northstar or vanilla servers, I can't tell) using Northstar mods to gain an unfair advantage and claiming it's not cheating by always highlighting opposing players, disabling shake/flash on fire, viewing the loadouts of the opposing team by pressing tab, using the Kraber scope for all weapons, or making the Volt laser always active for all weapons (we've seen this before in screenshots...). They are wondering if we can do anything to prevent Northstar from being used this way.

Peter11-1 commented 1 year ago

对不起,但我不知道这是关于什么的,以无关的方式结束。

Thank you for closing #442

Peter11-1 commented 1 year ago

what

I think a key point of this issue is to use the Northstar mod on official servers. In Northstar and NorthstarCN, I think it's okay to use mods because most player who use mods when playing Northstar and NorthstarCN. But the official server is different from Polaris, where most players don't use mods. At the same level, mod users have some certain advantages over non-mod users on official servers. Not to mention those who use cheating mods to gain an advantage. I wonder if there will be a tool, or in a future update, Northstar will delete the file that uses the Northstar mod on the official server when the player starts the game. This is the effective solution I've come up with so far. As for mods that severely affect the balance of the game, I think this will be difficult to solve. Talk about it later

Peter11-1 commented 1 year ago

I'm sorry but I have no idea what this is about, closing as unrelated.

I think a key point of this issue is to use the Northstar mod on official servers. In Northstar and NorthstarCN, I think it's okay to use mods because most player who use mods when playing Northstar and NorthstarCN. But the official server is different from Polaris, where most players don't use mods. At the same level, mod users have some certain advantages over non-mod users on official servers. Not to mention those who use cheating mods to gain an advantage. I wonder if there will be a tool, or in a future update, Northstar will delete the file that uses the Northstar mod on the official server when the player starts the game. This is the effective solution I've come up with so far. As for mods that severely affect the balance of the game, I think this will be difficult to solve. Talk about it later

Peter11-1 commented 1 year ago

I'm having a hard time understanding this too, but I believe they are complaining about players (on either Northstar or vanilla servers, I can't tell) using Northstar mods to gain an unfair advantage and claiming it's not cheating by always highlighting opposing players, disabling shake/flash on fire, viewing the loadouts of the opposing team by pressing tab, using the Kraber scope for all weapons, or making the Volt laser always active for all weapons (we've seen this before in screenshots...). They are wondering if we can do anything to prevent Northstar from being used this way.

I think a key point of this issue is to use the Northstar mod on official servers. In Northstar and NorthstarCN, I think it's okay to use mods because most player who use mods when playing Northstar and NorthstarCN. But the official server is different from Polaris, where most players don't use mods. At the same level, mod users have some certain advantages over non-mod users on official servers. Not to mention those who use cheating mods to gain an advantage. I wonder if there will be a tool, or in a future update, Northstar will delete the file that uses the Northstar mod on the official server when the player starts the game. This is the effective solution I've come up with so far. As for mods that severely affect the balance of the game, I think this will be difficult to solve. Talk about it later

GeckoEidechse commented 1 year ago

I wonder if there will be a tool, or in a future update, Northstar will delete the file that uses the Northstar mod on the official server when the player starts the game.

This is absolutely pointless cause players can easily sidestep any client side methods if they wanted to.

Peter11-1 commented 1 year ago

There are many ways to load a mod on an official server. The question is how many people know about these methods?since the one I proposed is only for people who don't understand mods. Otherwise, it has to be voluntary

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I'm having a hard time understanding this too, but I believe they are complaining about players (on either Northstar or vanilla servers, I can't tell) using Northstar mods to gain an unfair advantage and claiming it's not cheating by always highlighting opposing players, disabling shake/flash on fire, using the Kraber scope for all weapons, or making the Volt laser always active for all weapons (we've seen this before in screenshots...). They are wondering if we can do anything to prevent Northstar from being used this way.

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不知道会不会有工具,或者在以后的更新中,北极星会在玩家开始游戏时删除官方服务器上使用北极星模组的文件。

这绝对是毫无意义的,因为如果玩家愿意,他们可以轻松避开任何客户端方法。

There are many ways to load a mod on an official server. The question is how many people know about these methods?since the one I proposed is only for people who don't understand mods. Otherwise, it has to be voluntary

GeckoEidechse commented 1 year ago

Client side anti-cheat was attempted in NorthstarCN before and barely had an impact. Security through obscurity will never work...

Peter11-1 commented 1 year ago

There's nothing i can do about that

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Client side anti-cheat was attempted in NorthstarCN before and barely had an impact. Security through obscurity will never work...

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