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As a Student, I'd like to see examples to compare my potential monthly loan payments to, so that they are in a context I can relate to. #177

Open LisaGee opened 9 years ago

LisaGee commented 9 years ago

Need to find a source for an average monthly car payment or rent or salary.

ErieMeyer commented 9 years ago

@saintsoup52 -- where did you guys find data for this on the paying for college tool?

saintsoup52 commented 9 years ago

We borrow data from IPEDS (quarterly) and the financial shopping sheet data ED publishes annually (grad, CDR and median borrowing).

From: Erie Meyer [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:20 AM To: 18F/college-choice college-choice@noreply.github.com Cc: Campbell, Patrick (CFPB) Subject: Re: [college-choice] As a Student, I'd like to see examples to compare my potential monthly loan payments to, so that they are in a context I can relate to. (#177)

@saintsoup52https://github.com/saintsoup52 -- where did you guys find data for this on the paying for college tool?

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ErieMeyer commented 9 years ago

Apologies! I meant when you had textbooks and car payments

saintsoup52 commented 9 years ago

Our examples were a little lame (textbooks and something else)... I think we consider "smart phones", "tablets" and "gallons of gas".

The exercise was to find something that future college students knew the value of and would be aspirational in some way.

jjoteal commented 9 years ago

@LisaGee @saintsoup52 @ErieMeyer we accounted for this in the original designs, but I believe it was deprioritized for the MVP.

Here's the design mock-up of this section. Happy to crate new icons for other comparative metrics once those have been determined!

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LisaGee commented 9 years ago

I think the outstanding issue is that we need to find a source that we can use for comparison. Something that will show us current price of a phone, car or dinner for 2. I think that’s what Erie was looking for? Maybe?

From: jjoteal [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:13 PM To: 18F/college-choice Cc: Gelobter, Lisa Subject: Re: [college-choice] As a Student, I'd like to see examples to compare my potential monthly loan payments to, so that they are in a context I can relate to. (#177)

@LisaGeehttps://github.com/LisaGee @saintsoup52https://github.com/saintsoup52 @ErieMeyerhttps://github.com/ErieMeyer we accounted for this in the original designs, but I believe it was deprioritized for the MVP.

Here's the design mock-up of this section. Happy to crate new icons for other comparative metrics once those have been determined!

[image]https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/12192706/9369177/81af2abe-4695-11e5-8f21-3f3bcdc337a6.png

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/18F/college-choice/issues/177#issuecomment-132786344.

saintsoup52 commented 9 years ago

We spent a lot of calories trying to figure out what made the most sense here…

I think we considered using:

· Smart Phones

· Tablets

· Gallons of Gas

· Plane flights

· Rent

From: Lisa G. [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:17 PM To: 18F/college-choice Cc: Campbell, Patrick (CFPB) Subject: Re: [college-choice] As a Student, I'd like to see examples to compare my potential monthly loan payments to, so that they are in a context I can relate to. (#177)

I think the outstanding issue is that we need to find a source that we can use for comparison. Something that will show us current price of a phone, car or dinner for 2. I think that’s what Erie was looking for? Maybe?

From: jjoteal [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:13 PM To: 18F/college-choice Cc: Gelobter, Lisa Subject: Re: [college-choice] As a Student, I'd like to see examples to compare my potential monthly loan payments to, so that they are in a context I can relate to. (#177)

@LisaGeehttps://github.com/LisaGee @saintsoup52https://github.com/saintsoup52 @ErieMeyerhttps://github.com/ErieMeyer we accounted for this in the original designs, but I believe it was deprioritized for the MVP.

Here's the design mock-up of this section. Happy to crate new icons for other comparative metrics once those have been determined!

[image]https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/12192706/9369177/81af2abe-4695-11e5-8f21-3f3bcdc337a6.png

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/18F/college-choice/issues/177#issuecomment-132786344.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/18F/college-choice/issues/177#issuecomment-132787901.

jjoteal commented 9 years ago

@LisaGee @ErieMeyer -- let me know what measurements (and ideally the final language for each item) you want to go with and then I can devise the appropriate icons.

ErieMeyer commented 9 years ago

That was right -- was looking for a comparable consumer good and knew that CFPB had done a ton of research/calories around this. Seeing this, I think our best bet post-launch would be "gallon of gas," but I think consumer testing the target audience with mocks would be needed.