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directories need a manifest or readme #19

Open tbrowder opened 6 years ago

tbrowder commented 6 years ago

For each printable file, describe the page size it’s designed for.

Clearly separate materials by standard paper publishing sizes (and names) per ISO or US standard.

Since most Perl 6 users (by a recent survey) are in the US, materials for US paper sizes would be welcome.

zoffixznet commented 6 years ago

directories need a manifest or readme

IMO that's extra work to an already elaborate process of little value.

For each printable file, describe the page size it’s designed for.

That's already indicated in the filename of most pieces and where it isn't, the information is easily accessible from the PDF viewer.

Since most Perl 6 users (by a recent survey) are in the US, materials for US paper sizes would be welcome.

The vast majority of actual prints done to date has been in Europe, it's also the more aesthetically pleasing size, which is why it's used as default. A4 sizes are also available in US. Doing two sizes at the same time nearly doubling the amount of work, so ATM, the sizes other than A4 are to done on-demand.

tbrowder commented 6 years ago

Who is doing the actual design work? Can they be paid to create US sizes? If so, how much will be required?

zoffixznet commented 6 years ago

What problem are you trying to solve?

lizmat commented 6 years ago

I think it’s the problem many printers in the US not being able to handle A4 out of the box?

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zoffixznet commented 6 years ago

They will handle it and it'd just have whitespace on the sides.

But is that an actual problem that's present? Why do US Letter sizes have to pre-exist instead of being on-demand? And why is this so urgently needed that someone is willing to throw money at the problem?

lizmat commented 6 years ago

Well, to be honest, it’s been a while since I tried printing an A4 on a US printer. But from that experience, I know that it either plainly refused to print, or it at least required an extra interaction, either in the program printing, or on the printer itself. But one can hope that printers have become less stupid in that respect.

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They will handle it and it'd just have whitespace on the sides.

But is that an actual problem that's present? Who's printing on US printers and why is having US Letter versions of the particular assets on-demand a problem for those people? Why do they have to pre-exist?

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zoffixznet commented 6 years ago

But one can hope that printers have become less stupid in that respect.

But the person wouldn't even be printing an A4 on a US Letter in the first place. Just just ask for US Letter size to be created if it's missing, for the particular piece they want to print, instead of us having to waste time creating them for each piece all the time.

lizmat commented 6 years ago

Well, maybe Tom Browder can react as to why he would like to see US Letter versions.

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But one can hope that printers have become less stupid in that respect.

But the person wouldn't even be printing an A4 on a US Letter in the first place. Just just ask for US Letter size to be created if it's missing, for the particular piece they want to print, instead of us having to waste time creating them for each piece all the time.

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MasterDuke17 commented 6 years ago

(Caveat up front, I don't know anything about layout, print design, etc, so I'm not intending this as a response to the merits of this specific issue). It may be nice to have some open issues of this type. I say this because a common response to people asking how they can contribute to an open source project even if they can't program is to work on documentation, marketing, etc. This could be a concrete work item they could be pointed to.

tbrowder commented 6 years ago

A doc to be printed ideally is designed for the paper it will be printed on. Cases in point are the nicely designed marketing materials herein—they may be not so nice when printed in other sizes. My printer can print A4 paper, but that’s pricier in the US, even at the chain print services like Office Depot.

I am preparing a short pitch on Perl 6 for my Linux group this afternoon, and I will print some in B&W on letter paper to see how it looks.

To beat a dead horse, Zoffix has taken us down this nice design road, we just need to make it fit all markets. I will be buying some color materials for distribution locally, so I want them to look professional.

zoffixznet commented 6 years ago

I am preparing a short pitch on Perl 6

Right, but you're not going to print every single asset in the repo, right? Just ask for US Letter sizes for the stuff you want to print and we'll add them.

tbrowder commented 6 years ago

Okay, today I had 20 copies of the Introducing Perl 6 brochure (aka booklet) printed on US letter paper. They do have the white edges as expected so they do not look as professional as they would with colors bleeding to the edge of the paper. Before I have more printed, I would appreciate the original designer tweaking the source for the equivalent US paper size (specifically a page size of 5.5 inches by 8.5 inches which is half of standard letter size paper of 8.5 inches by 11 inches).

zoffixznet commented 6 years ago

Yeah, we can do that.

When do you need it ready? I recall TPF wanting to do some tweaks and would like to do them at the same time.

tbrowder commented 6 years ago

I have no definite need at the moment since I have 20 copies to give away (hopefully for a “donation’ to me so I can print more). But I will reprint eventually.

I’m still looking for a good target audience for Perl 6 marketing, but I’m offering a talk on Linux to local civic groups, and the talk will include reference to Perl 6. The goal is to make the parents and grandparents in the groups aware of the potential benefits of Linux and Perl 6 for their STEMM-minded children.