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Ralim / IronOS

Open Source Soldering Iron firmware
https://ralim.github.io/IronOS/
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Add standby mode to iron #682

Closed B9KGF closed 4 years ago

B9KGF commented 4 years ago
Ralim commented 4 years ago

Hello, I'm not sure what this is asking for really that wouldn't be achieved by the normal default behaviour of the firmware?

Just set the sleep time to like 30 seconds and this should all basically work out of the box?

B9KGF commented 4 years ago

Setting sleep mode as low as possible isn't exactly the same as what I'm describing imo, as sleep mode would activate after remaining motionless, where as an idle mode as I'm describing it will be set by the user on demand. This would be closer to what more well-known companies like jbc and Weller do when the iron is placed in the holder. As mentioned before, idling at a lower temperature is very important for expanding the tip's longevity.

whitehoose commented 4 years ago

If it's what I have on my bench - it works from an embedded magnet in the handle (easy to do with a (relatively) big unit like a weller) It's quite big because the neo magnet closes a reed fixed inside the stand. I've seen a smaller electronic one on a friend's (far) more costly setp - but it's still quite a size compared to a ts 100 or 80 (and you'd need a dedicated stand or similat - so may as well buy a weller (IMHOI its a better iron too :grin:).

The sleep "just works" by leaving it alone for x seconds, no extras required - whereas an "I've just put it down" detector needs a dooh dah to interact with. You could alternatively cobble something together with a PIR or radar detector or some sort of IR detector focused on a particular area of your bench but when the iron went cold ir if yo miss the mark ?? I can think of a few other ways, but they would all be "projects" and not at all slick

B9KGF commented 4 years ago

image Image source: JBC user manual JBC shorts a pin through the tip (the tip is grounded), and ramps down to - as they call it - sleep mode. This is obviously not possible with the TS100, as it's a AIO portable soldering iron. As whitehoose mentioned above, there are other alternate ways to achieve 'sleep mode', none of which can work with the TS100 without modifying a reed switch, or else IR detectors or PIR. That's why imo the "press B to put it in sleep mode manually, and then when it's picked up again it'll heat back up" is the best solution to the problem, and beats setting sleep mode very low etc.

B9KGF commented 4 years ago

TS100 listings are slowly being removed, for both tips and the actual iron. Expanding tip longevity should & could be one of Ralim's key factors over the stock firmware, appart from all the additional features.

Ralim commented 4 years ago

@GreekGeorge

Improving the life of the tip is one of the first things I focused on, which is why the sleep modes are easily adjustable. You don't need to best a dead horse here.

I don't get why this is overly desired, especially as it would require removing another existing button shortcut.

If you want instant sleep when you put it in the holder, using the IMU is the best solution with the existing hardware as it requires no extra steps, and it can kick in, in only a few seconds.

The Pinecil is coming from pine64 which may have more features in this department, but im not certain on anything in that regard so far.

Ts100 is not going away anywhere, though its peak sales volumes have probably occured (saturating market) so probably slightly less carriers out there, but I wouldn't be worrying, there are lots of tips out there already.

B9KGF commented 4 years ago

I mean no offense to the work you've already put in, just giving my own $0.02. I'll use sleep mode more frequently. Thanks for your time.