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A digital signage version of the common chalkboard-based taplist. Based on the kegerface/kegerface git.
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Revamp time! Whats Next? #304

Closed Skemp45 closed 8 years ago

Skemp45 commented 9 years ago

We have all taken about a year off of this project and have not made much movement on it. Who all is still around?

What should our next steps be?

thadius856 commented 9 years ago

I'm still around.

Have had some big life changes in the past year so time has been scarce for development. Never did get around to getting my second alamode.

Since then the new RPi has come out and likely many Raspbian builds. Anybody know if we're still compatible as-is?

I just finished building a new BSD server, so I'm a lot more confident in my *nix skills now. I haven't done much with PHP, CSS, or SQL since.

I think a revamp to a new stable build is probably in order by now. And our V3 goals should probably be re-evaluated based on user feedback and conprtition, with a few intermediate versions before we add those features.

I'll make as much time as possible for this project, but thinking we need a face-of-the-company type person brought into the mix for frontline support to really get rolling again.

mcangeli commented 9 years ago

Who the hell woke Skemp up??

:)

I'm here. Since the Flowmeter release in September, I'm on my second job already....

I have the basis of an RFID tracking system working to count pours to users (its a thing of beauty) but I don't have a back end to add the rfid to the user. Its currently a convoluted process.

I think we do need to sit down and look at a roadmap.

V3 should look to cleaning up the code a bit and fixing the current issues it has before we add more features.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:34 PM thadius856 notifications@github.com wrote:

I'm still around.

Have had some big life changes in the past year so time has been scarce for development. Never did get around to getting my second alamode.

Since then the new RPi has come out and likely many Raspbian builds. Anybody know if we're still compatible as-is?

I just finished building a new BSD server, so I'm a lot more confident in my *nix skills now. I haven't done much with PHP, CSS, or SQL since.

I think a revamp to a new stable build is probably in order by now. And our V3 goals should probably be re-evaluated based on user feedback and conprtition, with a few intermediate versions before we add those features.

I'll make as much time as possible for this project, but thinking we need a face-of-the-company type person brought into the mix for frontline support to really get rolling again.

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Boombrewer commented 9 years ago

I'm still lurking in the shadows but not sure how much time I'll have to help out. Just bought a house, moving, and I have a 5 month old. The only reason I still get brew days is that the wife loves keeping the kegorator full.... hours on the computer at night, not so much.

I'll do what I can to help out though.

jksnetwork commented 9 years ago

I'm new to the project but I could help out as well.

Skemp45 commented 9 years ago

I agree we need to be able to support and troubleshoot users issues but the forum was just overwhelming, along with alot of issues that were not code based issues. We need someone or someone(s) to do all the troubleshooting on the form and escalate true bug issues up to the dev team (us) and we can work them how we see fit. Are any of you familiar with the Agile methodology?

jksnetwork commented 9 years ago

I am somewhat familiar with Agile. The devs at work use it and I've sat in a a few conference sessions on it.

Skemp45 commented 9 years ago

Nice, we need to really get organized and but stuff out in sprints instead of taking on everythign at once.

On another note, EVERYONE NEEDS to read this writeup along with comments I found: http://www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/comments/2haipu/review_kegberry_vs_raspberrypints_wo_flowmeters/

it points out alot of areas we are lacking and what we do well, this should help us move forward

jkurl commented 9 years ago

Sean,   I called this need out a long time ago about providing support and let you devs work w/ out being overwhelmed by coding and troubleshooting other issues w/ the system. I am not trying to be a dick about it in any way. I am back from deployment and on vacation until May. I like boombrewer can offer help but it is limited. I am retiring the end of this month and working on transitioning back to the civilian life.Jerry Sent using CloudMagicOn Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 19:48, RaspberryPints/RaspberryPints reply@reply.github.com wrote: Nice, we need to really get organized and but stuff out in sprints instead of taking on everythign at once.

On another note, EVERYONE NEEDS to read this writeup along with comments I found: http://www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/comments/2haipu/review_kegberry_vs_raspberrypints_wo_flowmeters/

it points out alot of areas we are lacking and what we do well, this should help us move forward

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Skemp45 commented 9 years ago

@jkurl I remember you saying exactly that, the problem is like you me and most everyone, is that dedicated support is hard when its all just for fun in the free time, but we need to figure something out and I feel that together we can! IDEAS?

Skemp45 commented 9 years ago

I know @day_tripper on HBT has been our saving grace on the forum since day one, he knows a lot about Rpints now and is constantly answering everyone's questions

jkurl commented 9 years ago

One idea I had was maybe do a 2 tier type system of support. The tier 2 support will be easier issues like hardware and some lower level software support. Then tier 1 would be someone like day_tripper who can go a little deeper in the software side and the hardware side as well. Sent using CloudMagicOn Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 20:26, RaspberryPints/RaspberryPints reply@reply.github.com wrote: I know @day_tripper on HBT has been our saving grace on the forum since day one, he knows a lot about Rpints now and is constantly answering everyone's questions

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mcangeli commented 9 years ago

I looked at kegberry (I have their install script that I was working on basing one for rpints off of).

Its comparing apples to grapples.

Yes, they do the same thing but in different ways.

If I remember, kegberry is written almost completely in python. Its based heavily on kegbot and is no where near as customizable as rpints. Thats where we stand out.

Don't like the layout? Change it. We'll even help. Want to see a new feature? Develop it on your own (motion sensor) or let us know and we'll work on it.

Kegberry seems to be more for the person that has a kegerator at home that they fill with stuff from the store.

Either way. I don't see it as a competition. We aren't selling a product. We're a bunch of DIY'ers who are working on a project because we want to. We don't want to use something someone else develops and maintains.

I like Rpints because if I want to change the way something works, I can change it. If I want to add a feature, I can.

But thats just me.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:48 PM Skemp45 notifications@github.com wrote:

Nice, we need to really get organized and but stuff out in sprints instead of taking on everythign at once.

On another note, EVERYONE NEEDS to read this writeup along with comments I found:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/comments/2haipu/review_kegberry_vs_raspberrypints_wo_flowmeters/

it points out alot of areas we are lacking and what we do well, this should help us move forward

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Skemp45 commented 9 years ago

I agree with a lot of your points, but there is no reason we cant make changes and new releases and be the best product for both apples and grapples. We are not selling a product and we are DIY'ers but that does not mean our project should lack

olywrestle commented 9 years ago

Totally new guy here, don't know a ton about coding but am learning. Already running pints and have made some simple tweaks. Have not gotten all the parts for flow meters yet, but will.

Just wanted to jump in here and let you know the new BJCP styles are out, and I was going to modify/update the styles database with the new ones unless someone already has.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help out/test.

Skemp45 commented 9 years ago

Do you have a link? I can roll that into the next release

On Jun 24, 2015, at 7:19 PM, olywrestle notifications@github.com wrote:

Totally new guy here, don't know a ton about coding but am learning. Already running pints and have made some simple tweaks. Have not gotten all the parts for flow meters yet, but will.

Just wanted to jump in here and let you know the new BJCP styles are out, and I was going to modify/update the styles database with the new ones unless someone already has.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help out/test.

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olywrestle commented 9 years ago

http://bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdf