Unfortunately Symbiosis is not working with Logic pro and Final cut and possibly more apps

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Hello Sir.

I am struggeling to make an AU version of my first VST plugin, a delay based on 
MDA's open 
source

Bit after a lot of experimenting with your fantyastic kit, it appears that no 
matter what, I wont 
"see" my plug in either Logic or Final Cut.

And I also fetched a couple of plugs from destroy FX which was converted with 
Symbiosis, they 
didn't show up in either of the host.

As I am a noob in prograaming I would really love to focus on the VST part of 
codeing and be 
able to use your kit, but for now it's not possible :-(

Do you thinks there could be a solution for this "couch" small issue ?

Anyway thanks for the great work and a excellent idea.

Cheers, Don Brock
www.slodown.info 

Original issue reported on code.google.com by slowbr...@gmail.com on 6 May 2010 at 11:25

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Hello.

I definitely think there is a solution. Symbiosis is used in a lot of products 
today, and they all work in Logic Pro (and 
Final Cut). Have you tried MicroTonic or Synplant on your setup? Do they show 
up? Which DestroyFX plugs did you try?

What wrapping alternative(s) have you tried? Linking with the Symbiosis 
source-code or putting the compiled VST 
inside a Symbiosis "wrapper bundle"?

When you run "auval -a", does your plug-in show up in the list?

Original comment by malstro...@gmail.com on 6 May 2010 at 7:33

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Hello Magnus

I tried theduckdelay ( by you ? ) from 
http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/product/mdspduckdela/

And it didn't show in final cut 5. though it evaluates just fine in auval -a 
and with the - option

Perhaps my system is too old to compile the stuff correctly, I work on a Dual 
G5 with OS X 10.4.11

Thanks for the quick reply
Have a nice day, Brock
www.slodown.info

Original comment by slowbr...@gmail.com on 9 May 2010 at 7:40

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Hi again. No, I didn't make that one (mdsp is Remy Muller). I just downloaded 
it and actually it asserts on auval 
for me (the assert is not in Symbiosis). I'll ask him what's up.

I don't think your system is to old. I also use a G5 from time to time (since 
we still support that configuration). 
Have you checked out the sample project? Sinoplex. If you can build that and it 
shows up in Logic / Final Cut, 
then we know at least that Symbiosis is working on your machine and we can 
continue to pin down the exact 
problem with your project.

Original comment by malstro...@gmail.com on 9 May 2010 at 9:01

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Hello Sir.

Now i just compiled the sinoplex example and first of all it doesen't show in 
Final Cut
I dont have Logic Pro ( a good friend is testing on that for me...)
secondly, when I validate in auval, the plugin is failing with some "Caught Mac 
OS exception in 
SymbiosisEntry: Mac OS error code -10879"
I'll attach a text file with the result

Hopefully it will be possible to use you wrapper soon, saving a LOT of time

Cheers, Brock

Original comment by slowbr...@gmail.com on 12 May 2010 at 3:21

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• Auval.rtf

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The AUVal report you uploaded says that the validation was a success. The 
exceptions 
you are seeing are expected since AUVal tests stuff that shouldn't work. These 
are 
just traces of what is happening inside Symbiosis. As long as AUVal doesn't 
report 
errors, everything is fine.

Not sure why Sinoplex doesn't show up in your Final Cut. I will double-check 
that it 
works on my Mac asap. Have you tried the AU Lab tool from Apple with your own 
wrapped plug-in? Or GarageBand?

Original comment by malstro...@gmail.com on 12 May 2010 at 3:29

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Yes, I use the AU Lab tool to test and I thought everything was good when I 
first promoted the plugin at my 
site.

Both Auval and AU Lab is "seeing" the plug but, no luck in FC or Logic.

I don't have garageband either...

Well. I looking forward for a possible on this.

Have a nice day, Brock

Original comment by slowbr...@gmail.com on 12 May 2010 at 6:02

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One thing to make sure about Logic is that you run it in 32-bit mode and not 
the new 64-bit. The scanning is 
broken in the 64-bit version (*was* at least, not sure if they've fixed it). 
Once you have scanned the plug-ins 
you can run Logic in 64-bit again.

Original comment by malstro...@gmail.com on 12 May 2010 at 6:18

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Can't reproduce this. I'm closing it for now, although I would like to hear 
from slowbrock if he got it to work in the end.

Original comment by malstro...@gmail.com on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:41

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Well I didn't get it to work and it's a pity, as the symbiosis idea is great

Original comment by slowbr...@gmail.com on 14 Aug 2010 at 4:16

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slowbrock, is there a binary (or even source code) that you can send me so I 
can give it a try? My e-mail is magnus <at> nuedge <dot> net.

Original comment by malstro...@gmail.com on 14 Aug 2010 at 6:40

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Hey same kind of problem here. I have wrapped two of my VST with Symbiosis. 
They pass the auval test, they work in Garaeband but they don't show up in 
Logic. I have tried to manually activated them through the AU manager without 
success... 

Original comment by LePou1...@gmail.com on 6 Jan 2011 at 2:25

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We still have not been able to reproduce any claim that a plug-in (that passes 
auval) can not be used in Logic. These are the two most common circumstances 
when a plug-in will not show up:

1) The plug-in architecture is wrong (e.g. trying to use a 64-bit only plug-in 
in 32-bit Logic).
2) The plug-in is a stereo effect and the track is mono or vice versa (this is 
not supported in the current stable release of Symbiosis, but there will 
hopefully be support in the next version).

Original comment by malstro...@gmail.com on 9 Jul 2011 at 11:03