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New sound samples for boss characters #327

Closed Tormentor667 closed 3 years ago

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

As announced in the Facebook-chat, someone volunteered to help us with creating unique audio samples and voices for our boss characters, to bring in some variety. The person in question is Malte (@voice-bearer)- a warm welcome for him - and let's use this issue as a place where we can discuss and plan the single bosses and what lines, what sounds and what voice they need to have.

The list of bosses in question is as follows:

For each boss, we need the following sound samples

For each boss, we need to think about lines, they need to say when they are alerted, roaming (2x) and dying, the pain can be rather generic, just needs to fit to the voice. We as developers need to take care of that. For the english speaking people, simply suggest lines, I can translate them to german.

For each boss, we need a specific voice acting (pitch, speed, way of pronouncing, actually the "creative" part of the voice acting), which I'd leave to @voice-bearer

@Ozymandias81 can you be so kind and share a single sprite of each boss so @voice-bearer gets an idea how they are looking and how they could sound?

Here are the final voice action lines that need to pe recorder per actor, it's a bit more than announced but I guess it's worth it - no idea how much work is involved though, I hope you can handle that @voice-bearer :)

Dr. Morell (voice clear, middle pitch)

Dr. Schabbs Sr. (voice dirty, lower pitch)

Dr. Mengele (voice clear, like a whitch, higher pitch)

Friedhelm Hass (voice strong, dirty, lower pitch)

General Fettgesicht (deep, voluminous and dangerous voice, lower pitch)

General Giftmacher (normal voice, normal pitch)

General Goering (bassy voice, lower pitch)

General Schwabbelhals (bassy slow voice, low pitch)

General Seeteufel/Eisenhimmel (normal voice, maybe with a creative touch, medium pitch)

Goebbels (a voice similar to Hitler's, medium pitch)

Graf Holzbein (deep slow voice, lower pitch)

Himmler (medium voice, medium pitch, you can be creative here)

Hitler (well, just like Hitler speaks, we all know that inside out thanks to our german history in school, it can be enhanced to make it sound godlike or overpowered, because it's the final battle where Hitler uses occult powers and is twice as large as you).

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Hello there. Thanks for the invitation. I'm very excited to be part of this :)

malte commented 3 years ago

Hello, i feel honored, but i fear you linked the wrong malte in github. Have a good start in the new year!

Malte Euler Karl-Marx-Straße 15, 12043 Berlin Mob 0179 / 66666 14 www.malteeuler.com

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

Hello, i feel honored, but i fear you linked the wrong malte in github. Have a good start in the new year!

Excuses :)

Username-N00b-is-not-available commented 3 years ago

@Tormentor667 Edited the post, adding sprites. What about also adding General Totengraeber (C3M0_A) and Hitler?

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

I added General Totengräber (needs a sprite), for Hitler I'd keep what we have

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

...hell, that was quick :)

MuadDib90 commented 3 years ago

Moved to first post.

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

This is brilliant :) I will take the best out of it, translate them and prepare a final list for @voice-bearer as soon as I can if no one disagrees with your suggestions!

Talon1024 commented 3 years ago

Also, here's where they are used: Dr. Morell: C3M5_A Dr. Schabbs Sr.: C1M0 Dr. Mengele: C3M1_A, C3M5_A Friedhelm Hass: C1M6 Gen. Fettgesicht: C2M6_C (no fight), C3M6_A (undead) Gen. Giftmacher: C2M3, C2M6_C Gen. Goering: C3M5_A Gen. Schwabbelhals: Unused Gen. Seeteufel: C2M4 (no fight), C2M6_C Goebbels: C3M5_A Graf Holzbein: C2M3 Himmler: C3M6_A Gen. Totengräber: C3M0_A

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

@voice-bearer the first post is updated with all the german voice action lines :) Can you work with that as is?

MuadDib90 commented 3 years ago

I am a little confused here. Will the lines be provided only in German, or also in English? :D

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

@voice-bearer the first post is updated with all the german voice action lines :) Can you work with that as is?

Yeah, that's fine. I'll record the takes ASAP, but not before the new year :D

I think I'd finishing them around the next weekend if that's ok

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

I am a little confused here. Will the lines be provided only in German, or also in English? :D

Nice idea for me... I could do this too with a German accent

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

Only the german lines need to be recored, the english is there just for reference. Regarding the timing @voice-bearer - all fine, no need to rush them this night :D

By the way, all to you a Happy New Year 2021 - let's hope it will get better than 2020 :)

MuadDib90 commented 3 years ago

Moved it to first post

Ozymandias81 commented 3 years ago

Happy new year guys! And sorry didn't had time recently to do anything on pc, neither update images here

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Hi there and a happy new year.

I've done some recordings to the characters, but I forgot to ask in which format they have to be…. MP3 or WAV or OGG? And do the files need a special name-tag for the implementation? And the final question (so far ;) ) is can I upload them here anywhere (I'm not fit in using GitHub) or should I post the link to the drawer of my online-drive?

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

Hey @voice-bearer,

a happy new year to you as well :) Regarding the format, feel free to send them in OGG or MP3 format. Regarding the implementation, just add names to them that we can understand, so we know where to put them. @Ozymandias81 will most propably name them the way he needs them. You can upload them to any online hoster you prefer. :)

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

@voice-bearer did you make it somehow or do you have trouble sharing the files? You might want to use mediafire.com as a free service btw :)

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

@voice-bearer did you make it somehow or do you have trouble sharing the files? You might want to use mediafire.com as a free service btw :)

Hi there. Yes I've got some serious technical issues the last days but I think it's solved. So I thought I will share the first (new) recordings to you all (the old ones were deleted.... I hate that).

Here are the first bosses. I've pitched them a bit as shown on the schedule - please tell me what do you think. In my opinion it sounds (after the pitching) a little bit "metallic"... And of course please tell me what you generally thing about it - what could I do better and so on before I go any further. :)

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/al8d15f6lmsbm/Dr.+Morell https://www.mediafire.com/folder/hkq4l0k4f60lg/Dr.+Schabbs+Sr https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vggkppr10yu2l/Dr.+Mengele https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gq3gk6clfigzn/Friedhelm+Hass https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gtenoa5q3dh8b/General+Fettgesicht

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

@voice-bearer - I just listened through them and in terms of pronounciation and acting it's simply perfect, really. You know what you are doing and you caught the spirit of the characters and the mod very well. Kudos on that!

The only complaint that I have is indeed the technical quality of the sounds. I don't know what kind of postprocessing you have done to the sounds but with the pitching, it sounds indeed a bit "metallic", but generally I have the filling, that the sounds lack a bit of "depth" (hard to explain, but you surely know what I mean, no idea if the pitching is causing that as well), just as the lower frequencies have been cut at a certain point (mostly when listening to the deeper voices). I am not a sound engineer myself, so I can only tell how it sounds to me.

But honestly, this is so much better than anything we had before, so even if we leave it as is, it's an improvement. But maybe you can give more depth to the sound samples. As I said, everything else is absolutely top work and perfect, the voice acting is better than I have imagined it - thanks so much for that :)

I just attached an example what I mean with deeper and clearer, maybe that can help you.

Bos1St07.zip

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Thank you for the compliments! :) :) Yeah, I know what you mean. And that is actually due to pitching... I will try a different software for that and I will try to improve the original takes with new settings. Then I'll upload that demo here.

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Here are the samples from General Seeteufel with new settings. I think this sounds much better with the metallic issue - what do you think? If so, I will try to overwork the other takes if possible (otherwise I have to leave them as they are)

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/zgjdualr1ty7n/General+Seeteufel

MuadDib90 commented 3 years ago

Hi voice-bearer, well, I don't think I can help here anymore, that just to present the lines themselves. Although I have in my mind the exact picture of how each of them should sound (at least according to me :D ), but I understand my opinion is not the main one here. It should be according to @Torm's.

Another thing why can't I help is, because it is recorded in German language, and it has totaly different speaking speed, word emphasis an so on - that I am not used to at all. But if it was recorded in English... that would be different. :)

All in all it sound as a great job to me. I think you study each charakter and try to applicate their own features. Well done. 👍

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

Here are the samples from General Seeteufel with new settings. I think this sounds much better with the metallic issue - what do you think?

I have a different idea. As I said, the pronounciation and style is perfect, only the post-production isn't hitting the nail's head. Can you share the complete recordings without any post production to them and let me try something? Just as an exampe, I did these recordings myself for the templars (yes, it's the worst spoken latin ever) and I think the post-production came out quite well despite not having the best mic.

TEMPSIT1.zip

All I need is a folder for each character with all their approprate sounds (raw, wave), I can try the rest. I would like to show these to you though as soon as I am done with it - for your approval, it's your voice after all :)

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Ok, sounds interesting. But.... then I have to record all lines so far again, because I've saved them as edited files lol

Well, ok, I can do this but it will take a while. Should I do at least the noise reduction or do you want it with that?

Or should I save them as raw material AND edited?

@MuadDib90 Thank you!

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

Well, you can send me both of it is okay for you - the edited ones and the raw files. I am not sure if my post-production will work :) I am happy with what you have but I’d like to pull the last 10% out of your work to make them perfect :)

DoomJedi commented 3 years ago

It's always a pity when work is lost, I would suggested recording directly to cloud services - dropbox and such.

malte commented 3 years ago

Please take me off the mailer, i am not part of the project, good luck for it anyways.

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

Please take me off the mailer, i am not part of the project, good luck for it anyways.

Sorry, you need to do this on your own, there is an unsubscribe link at the bottom of the mails you get.

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Well, you can send me both of it is okay for you - the edited ones and the raw files. I am not sure if my post-production will work :) I am happy with what you have but I’d like to pull the last 10% out of your work to make them perfect :)

Hi there. Ok, here are the RAW-Files for every character: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fsg83qnj2wdmc/Raw-Takes

I haven't done any editing/pitching yet. When your editing won't work, I can easily pitch the takes then. But - I admit - I'm really curious about your idea ;) As you will hear some of the characters seem to sound sometimes similar - I have oriented myself to the pictures of the bosses. And in my humble opinion they are almost all very "bully" and thick/strong/big (you know what I mean?) so I've had to play nuances with my voice. But I think the pitching will do it's thing, like the first/other recordings... BTW: from almost every recording there is more than one take (so you can choose, which one is the best) - so feel free to cut them together when for example the first part of take one fits better with the second part of take two...or vice versa.

So please let me know what you think. If there is any additional work to do (or when you've had other ideas how to let the bosses talk) please let me know, too.

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

@voice-bearer can you be so kind and upload one ZIP with all the directories and files? Otherwise I need to download one file after another because I do not have a premium MediaFire account, so I can't download multiple files at once :-D

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

@voice-bearer can you be so kind and upload one ZIP with all the directories and files? Otherwise I need to download one file after another because I do not have a premium MediaFire account, so I can't download multiple files at once :-D

No problem, here you are (different hoster, maybe better usable for you): https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZvzO7ZwvUOC9nKNj7aa7qIJgMkAJIHEFb7

MuadDib90 commented 3 years ago

@voice-bearer First of all, very good job. The work with yor voice is perfect :) But I have 3 things, if I may, that are important. We'll see what you and @Tormentor667 think about them:

  1. I liked the non-alternative lines better. (without "-01" at the end and so on)
  2. I am missing a fear in their voices in "dying lines". They may had power to hurt people, but they were certainly cowards at the end. I'd add a fearful atribut to them; as totaly feared of dying.
  3. Hitler's lines. I like when you try not to talk fluently. That's like him. He had accent like on every word. Try to totaly exaggerate. It won't hurt it, quite the contraty I think. Second think, try to imagine like you are standing like him behind the speaking table before a crowd of people trying to convince them on something. Try shouting (not exactly shouting :D ) but try to give your voice A POWER/might, a resonance. Like he tries to pierce you with his own words. Your voice have to be heard, you have to fear it. It's so strong. (I think you understand my point here - do not talk like BJ is his friend standing next to him. Accent in his voice, shock, power, emphasis, total exaggeration.)

I hope you won't get it as anything negative. Just my thoughts to consider, that possibly might help for better outcome. What do you think guys? :)

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

@MuadDib90 Thank you for your kind words! :)

So the "death-scenes" I perfomed like they couldn't believe that it's actually happening to them - I mean: we're talking about Nazis, right? ;) But of course I can rework that if you all want, no problem.

To the Hitler-takes: I see your point. Therefore my thought was that the pitching/post-production will do it's magic. But I can do new recordings of these takes too.

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

@MuadDib90 Thank you for your kind words! :)

So the "death-scenes" I perfomed like they couldn't believe that it's actually happening to them - I mean: we're talking about Nazis, right? ;) But of course I can rework that if you all want, no problem.

To the Hitler-takes: I see your point. Therefore my thought was that the pitching/post-production will do it's magic. But I can do new recordings of these takes too.

You are making good points here where I think we can stick to the samples as they are. If both of you are okay I will do the Post Production these days.

MuadDib90 commented 3 years ago

You are making good points here where I think we can stick to the samples as they are. If both of you are okay I will do the Post Production these days.

Yeah, sure. We will see what you can get from these.

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

Did my first post-processing, let me know how you like it @MuadDib90 @voice-bearer Editing_Take1.zip

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Did my first post-processing, let me know how you like it @MuadDib90 @voice-bearer Editing_Take1.zip

Wow..... awesome work! I love it! So... for me it works.. Sounds like a little "double stereo"-effect - how did you do that? (or better which program do you use?)

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

Thanks kindly, I used Adobe Audition for that and a few effects from the rack :)

By the way, how or with what name do you want to get credited for your effort?

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Thanks kindly, I used Adobe Audition for that and a few effects from the rack :)

By the way, how or with what name do you want to get credited for your effort?

Ah, thanks. I will look out for that program.

Thanks for the asking, I like to be credited with my normal name (Malte Janßen or Malte Janssen - I don't know if the system can use the "ß") because I want to use it for my portfolio.

In this context I have a question: is it possible to get a video-cut with some (or all?) characters that I've lend my voice? For my portfolio, you know ;) If not - no problem. I will link the project website anyway to my homepage.

MuadDib90 commented 3 years ago

Did my first post-processing, let me know how you like it @MuadDib90 @voice-bearer Editing_Take1.zip

Wow, magic! Sounds very good. This post-process gives it a really nice touch. Good for me. :)

EDIT: I forgot to say @voice-bearer was fantastic at re-recording these lines, especially Hitler. Nice job, pal. ;-)

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

I forgot to say @voice-bearer was fantastic at re-recording these lines, especially Hitler. Nice job, pal. ;-)

Exactly that, @voice-bearer - This is brilliant work, as I already said. The acting is perfect, I couldn't have imagined it as good as you did it. Thanks so much for this. I just committed a new package with all the finished sounds, all that is left to do now is assigning them to the enemies, @Ozymandias81 will most propably take care of that.

https://github.com/Realm667/WolfenDoom/commit/ac87848e9a8f657c75ab1571f9353c1175554464

I also added you to the credits. For the video-cut, I will see what I can do as soon as @Ozymandias81 is done :)

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

So much kind words.... Thank you so much! This means a lot to me. <3 Thanks for the credits. I'm really excited to hear and see the final form in the game :)

Username-N00b-is-not-available commented 3 years ago

I started recording the necessary videos 1920x1080@2500+256Kbps&30fps without music, to spare @Ozymandias81 from this work. C1M0: Dr. Schabbs Sr. schabbs.zip C1M6: Friedhelm Hass hass.zip C2M3: Graf Holzbein holzbein.zip C2M3: General Giftmacher giftmacher.zip C2M6_C, C3M5_C: General Seeteufel/Eisenhimmel seeteufel.zip C3M1_A, C3M1_B, C3M5_A: Dr. Mengele mengele.zip C3M0_A: General Totengräber totengraeber.zip C3M5_A: Goering goering.zip C3M5_A: Goebbels goebbels.zip C3M5_A: Dr. Morell morell.zip C3M6_A: Himmler himmler.zip C3M6_B: Hitler hitler.zip UNUSED except cutscene appearances in C1M6, C2M0_A, C2M6_C (+ possibly C3M6_A): General Fettgesicht UNUSED: General Schwabbelhals

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Here's Friedhelm Hass: hass.zip I will update this post later.

Oh my gosh! This sounds and looks unbelievable! Thanks for creating the video. 👍

MuadDib90 commented 3 years ago

Hah... awesome job, guys. Really. The outcome is out-stan-ding. :)

Tormentor667 commented 3 years ago

This is what I call a „collaboration effort“ 💯

Username-N00b-is-not-available commented 3 years ago

Recorded the bosses who are used in our story and get killed by the player, please write here if you also would like me to record the remaining ones. I would like to say that the voices are really nice done, thank you, @voice-bearer, for the work! What bothered me some:

voice-bearer commented 3 years ago

Thank you, @Username-N00b-is-not-available - my pleasure! And also a deep thanks for the videos! Amazing!

(Edit: yeah, I got your back. I can't barely hear the lines...)

To the new/more active sounds: good idea - gimme the words ;)