RedHatOfficial / Overpass

Overpass open source web font family — Sponsored by Red Hat
http://overpassfont.org
SIL Open Font License 1.1
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Partial lack of cubic source files #1

Closed adrientetar closed 9 years ago

adrientetar commented 9 years ago

In the source files presented here, only the light weight has Postscript curves which are what's used to draw.

So a complete open-source release of these fonts which allows designers to contribute or create derivatives would involve complete release of cubic font source files (conversion from TTF to Postscript is notably lossy).

By the way: proprietary VFB files can now be converted to open-source UFOs using the vfb2ufo utility – it is seegmingly still botchy as I experienced when trying to convert the Overpass fonts, but it can be valuable eventually to have UFOs alongside VFBs in the repo (esp. since vfb2ufo only runs on Windows and Macintosh, just like FontLab itself).

andyfitzsuse commented 9 years ago

This is excellent feedback.
We're preparing italics and an extra light before the formal release of this font family so identifying these issues now helps a great deal before we finish the initial set.

I'm a fontforge user myself but Delve prefers Fontlab - after completion we should probably migrate to UFO.

andyfitzsuse commented 9 years ago

Also worth noting that Regular and Bold were designed around freetype for software/screen only. Light had a wider scope. Hopefully we can circle back and standardise Regular and Bold

andyfitzsuse commented 9 years ago

Happy to take any pull requests of your migration efforts BTW. Thanks very much for your interest.

adrientetar commented 9 years ago

Happy to take any pull requests of your migration efforts BTW. Thanks very much for your interest.

For now there is this vfb2ufo bug but it should be done around final release I think.

Also some feedback on the Light master: acute and grave seem off. Here's my name written with it (no kerning due to the vfb2ufo bug):

opass1v

The acute is slipping off of the letter.

opass

With a quick fix it looks already better:

overpass3

SVG code:

<?xml version="1.0" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd" >
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" version="1.1" viewBox="0 -200 1000 1000">
  <g transform="matrix(1 0 0 -1 0 800)">
   <path fill="currentColor"
d="M462 227c2 22 2 38 2 49c0 172 -93 247 -202 247c-131 0 -222 -97 -222 -267c0 -144 84 -268 222 -268c59 0 116 25 156 58l-38 47c-39 -29 -78 -40 -115 -40c-87 0 -139 70 -151 174h348zM262 460c54 0 130 -32 131 -170h-281c6 116 68 170 150 170zM413 732h-109
l-110 -156h65z" />
  </g>
</svg>

Also I notice cimcumflex and tilde feel too constructed for the design of Overpass, and tilde seems like it has too much contrast variation.

If I may suggest two great resources for diacritics design (which, tbh, is an unexpectedly uneasy part of the design process):