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This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows.
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Asus Prime X470-Pro (Very Slow Ramping) #1443

Closed N3RD-MAN closed 1 year ago

N3RD-MAN commented 1 year ago

This Software is a Game-Changer for most users..... But...

..... In my case, After a few updates which i can not recall!!! the software started to develop a very very slow ramping problem! It is not my hardware nor is it my bios setup.. I have tried other software capable of doing what FC does and it does not have this issue...

The only options selected in sensor are

Motherboard CPU GPU

I also noticed someone else with the same motherboard saying the same thing, I do not want to revert back to version 112 which works but isn't playing nice with certain options.

Please resolve this issue or its back to using hardware bios

I started using this software for a (GPU FAN MOD) Fans connected to motherboard to control temps.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

You'll have to be more specific and provide some video/demonstration of the problem. What's your step up/down rate set on your controls?

N3RD-MAN commented 1 year ago

Seriously ?

You see how complicated you make things, I already told you what the issue is....

After a few updates things just decided to not work properly.

It has nothing to do with me changing anything, (STEP UP/STEP DOWN) Untouched like eveything else is untouched.

You have changed the way you progrmmed your software and that is why it doesnt work properly.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

You have changed the way you progrmmed your software and that is why it doesnt work properly.

That's an assumption you made on your side. If it was as simple as that, the problem would affect everyone, but it doesn't. So clearly something specific is going on, hence why I need details, otherwise I won't be able to help you properly.

You'll have to define "Slow ramping". Is it the fact your fans don't hit the expected RPM and stay low? Do your fans hit the max rpm but it takes a while? How long? Give me a specific exemple, and also send your json config file.

N3RD-MAN commented 1 year ago

Slow Ramping is exactly what I am describing.....

I move the slider up on manual, it takes up to 1 minute or more for the percentage to go up or down.

Now with automated settings with fan curves! the same very thing as stated...

slow ramping

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

Is there a "?" appearing on the control card as it happens? Also, send your json config file you are using.

N3RD-MAN commented 1 year ago

Fini.zip

I apologise for my frustration, But i really appreciate this software :)

I have supplied the file you requested, I just want to say version 112 works fine other than slight bugs with forgetting cpu from time to time.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

2 things:

N3RD-MAN commented 1 year ago

The slow ramp up does not have any question marks.

Okay, replacing the "LibreHardwareMonitorLib.dll" resolved the issue, but what happens when it requires an update! will it overwrite the LibreHardwareMonitorLib.dll file ?

Thanks, I should of thought of this myself but I didn't want to corrupt the software.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

Yes, any new update will override the LHM lib.

N3RD-MAN commented 1 year ago

So I should just keep a back-up of 112 until you find a solution to this problem, because I am not the only person with this issue as I have read around... !!!

It's not my place to suggest anything but it would be nice keep it simple and have several version catering for different chipsets ? or just have a GPU only version for thos of us that mod our GPU's with 120mm fans running from the motherboard using the GPU sensor.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

I am not the only person with this issue as I have read around... !!!

Can you point me links to that?

I have not seen any problem of that sort yet.

Maloonkey commented 1 year ago

A bit late, but I am also an Asus Prime x470-Pro user and updated from an older version and this has happened to me. FanControl is practically unusable now as it takes upwards of 30 seconds for sensors to update reported temps and fan speeds, and for the fan speeds to change.

Thank you for the temporary work around involving librehardwaremonitor.

Will this be an issue we will have to bring up to them? Or is this not relevant.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

^ @Maloonkey if you download LibreHardwareMonitor directly, do you experience the same slow update issue in there? Make sure you got FanControl closed as you do.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

One of my guess that is specific to Asus boards is this: https://github.com/LibreHardwareMonitor/LibreHardwareMonitor/blob/1131b4098da66b76c83efc6375f961420fe416fc/LibreHardwareMonitorLib/Hardware/Motherboard/Lpc/EC/WindowsEmbeddedControllerIO.cs#L20

The code that manages the EC seems to have a retry mechanism that will hang the whole thread until it succeeds or fails after multiple attempts.

There would probably be a bit of decoupling to be done in there so that the read/refresh is async and doesn't hang the main update method.

N3RD-MAN commented 1 year ago

Thanks for notifying Rem0o on this matter, You are the fifth person to bring this up that I have seen online.

Its a strange thing that it's only Prime x470-Pro users. also windows 10 cumulative updates seem to effect the software :S

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Maloonkey commented 1 year ago

^ @Maloonkey if you download LibreHardwareMonitor directly, do you experience the same slow update issue in there? Make sure you got FanControl closed as you do.

Yes, I do experience this issue after using the dll provided directly by the librehardwaremonitor 0.9.1 release.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

@Maloonkey I'm pretty sure it is the asus EC stuff then. There isn't a way to disable it from FanControl's perspective. Will take a look on LHM's side and see what I can do.

Rem0o commented 1 year ago

Alright here's the short term plan:

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Asus Embedded EC will be optional. Found a a hacky way to disable it.

matmat07 commented 3 months ago

If someone stumbles upon this, Removing the checkmark on Embedded EC is what helped me.