Linux Version? :pray:

[vexersa]

I would love to know if there are any plans to make a Linux compatible version of FanControl?

[Rem0o]

Nop, it's an old shcool .NET 4.7 app.

[vexersa]

Arg but it's so good.

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[Rem0o]

Sorry. If I ever modernize its stack there would be a possibility for Linux, but that would be a huge task still.

[MostHated]

Just throwing it out there that I +1 a Linux version.

[zeus86]

would love to see a linux version, too. it would be really awesome this project to become the platform-independent "OpenRGB" for just for fans.

[8836290]

+1 for Linux please.

[DradeAW]

+1 for Linux !!

[ghost]

+1 for Linux

[dongryphon]

I would pay $ for you to get a linux version if that would help... maybe other linux folks would also? Being a programmer myself, I could help with the UI ... not familiar with the hardware stuff at all though

[vhouriet]

I would also be willing to contribute financially to this app if it would help create a potential Linux version

[Ryder17z]

+1 for Linux

[Rem0o]

What backend could be used on Linux?

Does https://github.com/LibreHardwareMonitor/LibreHardwareMonitor picks up fan controls ?

[zeus86]

What backend could be used on Linux?

pretty sure best bet would be lm-sensors, which already does most of the heavy lifting...

[Rem0o]

One thing that bothers me is .NET 6. I like 4.7/4.8 apps because that framework is built-in into windows and people don't have to download it and install it. Whereas .NET Core++ apps either you bundle the whole damn framework with your app, for a whopping 100+ mb app, or you require the user to download the framework. Both options are awful imo.

[MostHated]

One thing that bothers me is .NET 6. I like 4.7/4.8 apps because that framework is built-in into windows and people don't have to download it and install it. Whereas .NET Core++ apps either you bundle the whole damn framework with your app, for a whopping 100+ mb app, or you require the user to download the framework. Both options are awful imo.

Maybe it's just me, but I would gladly accept a 100mb app size if it meant I finally got a much-needed and sought-after tool. I would also venture a guess that many folks who are using Linux and want/need a tool like this would have absolutely no issue installing .Net in order to have it, or already have it installed.

[mtabbakh]

A Linux version, please!

[nick987]

I would definitely be keen to financially contribute to a project like this if a linux version was created!

[mail2onur]

A Linux GUI version built on top of lm-sensors would be awesome

[dongryphon]

there is a fancontrol package for accessing the fans but I have not had tons of success configuring it ... hence my interest :) I would imagine one could make a daemon process that the GUI talks to so the policies it defines could be enforced w/o the (large) GUI running. Not sure if you are thinking to port the .NET app or move it to a new stack so just throwing ideas out there

[scchow]

+1 would definitely be willing to contribute code /test to help work towards a Linux version. Current solutions available on Linux are so much more limited and clunky compared to what you have here.

[Rem0o]

Since I guess lm-sensors is a process, how would it look if we query it for let say 30 sensors every second? Will each call spawn a new process?

[dongryphon]

The README for lm-sensors https://github.com/lm-sensors/lm-sensors mentions the libsensors library for writing more intricate programs

[Inshal240]

Donated for potential linux support. Hope that helps!

[foursixnine]

@Rem0o Hey! Wanna work together trying to see if it works with Mono framework on linux? I guess that by the recent exposure from Jayz you might get a considerable amount of requests, and I'm sure a lot of us can help :)

[Dark3clipse]

I came here from JayZ only to find out it doesn't support linux... I really hope there will be a linux version in the future

[Rem0o]

@SophiaHadash It would be basically a completely different software. Software that plays with hardware like that is really OS specific. I ain't a linux user myself, so not much incentive to work on such a new project.

[foursixnine]

Hey @Rem0o See my comment above, perhaps there's something that can be done? (Specially that LibreHardwareMonitor seems to work on Linux with mono too... but I'm not sure how your software works in windows :)

cc @scherenhaenden

[Rem0o]

Did some preliminary testing for fun:

1) LHM does have a basic lm-sensors readout, but no fan control. However, with a bit of code, managed to get manual fan control for all detected PWM in ubuntu. Surprisingly easy to do so. Must be root user though. 2) FanControl is a WPF app, and WPF works in dotnet 6, but on windows only. Which means, would have to create a whole new UI project with an other UI tech stack. That's a whole new project by itself. Also, AFAIK, there is no mature dotnet GUI framework on Linux right now worth investing time in.

TLDR: FanControl isn't directly portable to Linux. Most of the logic could, but the app structure, UI and everything else would need to be started over from scratch.

[mail2onur]

TLDR: FanControl isn't directly portable to Linux. Most of the logic could, but the app structure, UI and everything else would need to be started over from scratch.

Yes. I wished that you would have created Fancontrol on a cross platform toolkit when i first saw the application. That was the first thing came to my mind when i saw how greatly useful the application

[CZEMacLeod]

1. LHM does have a basic lm-sensors readout, but no fan control. However, with a bit of code, managed to get manual fan control for all detected PWM in ubuntu. Surprisingly easy to do so. Must be root user though.
2. FanControl is a WPF app, and WPF works in dotnet 6, but on windows only. Which means, would have to create a whole new UI project with an other UI tech stack. That's a whole new project by itself. Also, AFAIK, there is no mature dotnet GUI framework on Linux right now worth investing time in.

TLDR: FanControl isn't directly portable to Linux. Most of the logic could, but the app structure, UI and everything else would need to be started over from scratch.

I have to admit, I would quite like to see a version of this that runs as a service in the background on windows and linux, with a config/monitor UI separate. The UI could either be WPF on windows, or perhaps rewritten as blazor so it could be web or app based. I think that would make this already excellent tool just that little bit better. It would also make it (more) suitable for headless devices, servers and such too, which would also be great!

[vexersa]

1. LHM does have a basic lm-sensors readout, but no fan control. However, with a bit of code, managed to get manual fan control for all detected PWM in ubuntu. Surprisingly easy to do so. Must be root user though.
2. FanControl is a WPF app, and WPF works in dotnet 6, but on windows only. Which means, would have to create a whole new UI project with an other UI tech stack. That's a whole new project by itself. Also, AFAIK, there is no mature dotnet GUI framework on Linux right now worth investing time in.

TLDR: FanControl isn't directly portable to Linux. Most of the logic could, but the app structure, UI and everything else would need to be started over from scratch.

I have to admit, I would quite like to see a version of this that runs as a service in the background on windows and linux, with a config/monitor UI separate. The UI could either be WPF on windows, or perhaps rewritten as blazor so it could be web or app based. I think that would make this already excellent tool just that little bit better. It would also make it (more) suitable for headless devices, servers and such too, which would also be great!

This is an awesome idea!

[zeus86]

I have to admit, I would quite like to see a version of this that runs as a service in the background on windows and linux, with a config/monitor UI separate. The UI could either be WPF on windows, or perhaps rewritten as blazor so it could be web or app based. I think that would make this already excellent tool just that little bit better. It would also make it (more) suitable for headless devices, servers and such too, which would also be great!

...this would also enable native frontends for different flavors (gtk/qt5) especially including an ncurses-interface, which would enable users to use the backend on the shell and thus not limiting the functionality to Instances with gut but also servers and headless-machines and such.

[Quatshcop]

I guess a good UI Framework would be Avalonia (avaloniaui.net). It's essentially WPF but Cross Platform. The lack of this app on linux is one of the major blockers for me to completely move over. xD

Thank you so much for your work!

[Rem0o]

I got a long term goal to make "engine" of fancontrol stand-alone and dotnet6 compatible, to be able to then create any front-end/service I want out of it.

I'm already ready to port it to dotnet6, however, I really hate the fact that the user experience for dotnet6 app on windows is bad. With 4.X app it's easy, Windows has it installed by default. With .NET6, either I have to ship the framework with the app (portable), for a whooping 180 mb + app, or I rely on every user to download the framework and install the framework.

[mail2onur]

Ohh please don't do that. No one wants to download 200 mb file and install yet another dot.net framework. Could you please skip dot.net all together if/when you overhaul your app engine? Imo dot.net is even worse than Java based apps

[Rem0o]

@mail2onur Well, it does uses .NET, 4.8 right now to be exact. I'm based on LHM, so I can't escape .NET. But 4.X is legacy at this point, and will have to be phased out at some point.

[bartimaeusnek]

With .NET6, either I have to ship the framework with the app (portable), for a whooping 180 mb + app, or I rely on every user to download the framework and install the framework.

From .NET Core 1 onwards, the app itself will ask the user to install the framework by providing a download link in a window that opens itself. It should be no problem for Users to interact with it and install the framework.

[Rem0o]

@bartimaeusnek yup saw that, but it's not a direct download link, you still have to choose like x86, x64 and so on, and I can guarantee that at least 25% of users will do it wrong.

[Ryder17z]

Related, but it only lists up to version 4.8 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/deployment/deployment-guide-for-developers

You should be able to construct the same for newer versions but that seems to lack documentation so i don't know if it's still doable.

[SourTrigger]

@bartimaeusnek yup saw that, but it's not a direct download link, you still have to choose like x86, x64 and so on, and I can guarantee that at least 25% of users will do it wrong.

I genuinely don't believe that this is true. I would wager that those people couldn't even figure out how to download a release off of Github either, nor would they likely be inclined to even care about fan curves or temperatures beyond stock functionality. If I were to draw a Venn diagram, I bet the circles of people that could easily install the latest .NET Core Runtime from Microsoft's website and download a release of FanControl from GitHub and run it (or even figure out how to configure it) would overlap by 99%.

I think you're fine excluding it from the app and having users download it directly from Microsoft's site. This is enthusiast level software and should cater to that crowd, imho.

[ghost]

+1 for Linux. Even a headless "engine" would go a long way and I'd be willing to pay for linux support as well.

[jrentsch]

Another +1 for Linux. Love this on Windows, Linux would be awesome.

[icavalheiro]

@Rem0o have you considered the upcoming .net version's native compilation? I know it's precisely build for this kind of scenario, smaller file sizes, instant start ups, ....

I would also like to contribute to the development iof you ever decide to open up the source code.

[Rem0o]

@icavalheiro I have checked it out, but it has so many limitations, that porting an app that has any user interface to native compilation is basically impossible.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/deploying/trimming/incompatibilities

[wiiznokes]

Hi, I made an open source alternative here for those interested. Works also on Linux.

[san616mofo]

@Rem0o, what about Flutter (as a graphical interface)? I have a system with 13 fans (including two liquid cooling ones), and I would like to have full control over them on Linux. Looking forward to this version.

[nijahplays]

+1 for Linux :)

[DaRacci]

+1 for Linux

[don-dolarson]

+1 for Linux here too

[funny-family]

+1 for Linux