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@bangen and Scott Shahveridan I know have done a lot on this. Sara tie your commit histories to this issue please and provide update.
@joewheaton @wally-mac I made some edits to Scott's slides. They're attached below.
Scott did an awesome job reworking the management model. IMO, it's a huge improvement over the previous version and should be our starting point moving forward.
From the runs for the 5 basins in the Sierra Nevada I found there are some gaps/missing categories for:
A few things to note:
I attached a kmz below for the Truckee
I was going to tag Scott here, but appears he isn't on Git?
@bangen Scott is now on Gihub @sshahverdian
I'm just now digesting some of @sshahverdian and @bangen work on this for first time. Really, really cool.
I am realizing that the changes you made are both to the 'conflict' model, but more focused on the 'management model'. This is a good discussion. @bangen lets break this out into remaining specific enhancement tasks. Its really hard to know what changes you made through what commits to address this one (you can go back and edit your commits to add reference to #16 here)...
Just realized I posted this to the incorrect issue. Should have been to issue #17. I'll copy it there.
See also #69
@joewheaton, I know you have thought a lot more about the potential conflict side of the BRAT model over the past couple of months. Can you please add your comments here or in a new ticket for our staff meeting next week (Week of July 22)? Thanks
Okay folks, the video below is my stab at the next step for changes to the conflict model. Please note that this includes many of the concepts we thrashed out above. Some highlights:
Human Beaver Conflict
to not emphasize it so much.oPC_Prob
and oPBRC
in a useful way. The map I show gets us 90% there, but I've got a bug on canals.Video: https://youtu.be/gpVwMSp59Ys
This is a HIGH PRIORITY as until this is refined, we should not be batching through runs! Lets get going on this.
I've made a branch for implementing these changes, with the name "new_conflict_model". I'd like to ask @bangen (and anyone else who ends up working on this) to work on that branch, so that the rapidly changing and probably buggy code that gets pushed doesn't affect the master branch.
Given the goals of this, would it make sense to implement the new conflict (or whatever we're calling it) as an optional tool that can be run after everything else? You mentioned putting it in the "Intermediates" category, but that's also misleading, because it's not intermediate to anything. Maybe we have a new category, called "Supplemental Outputs" or something like that, which could contain the conflict stuff?
It seems to me that there are some structural questions we should ask about this. What if we generated oPC_Score in the Conversation and Restoration Model (since it uses conflict as an input), and then have the conflict map that @joewheaton produced as an optional step? I'd appreciate thoughts on this, since it's hard to move forward on development without a clear idea of what the end product should look like.
@joewheaton, I just watched your video on your new approach to visualizing potential human-beaver conflict and I think it is spot on. Excellent work! @banderson1618, I think you also bring up some excellent follow up questions for Joe. I'd be very interested to hear what Joe thinks of your ideas. Also, I think we need some clearer "marching orders" in order to effectively address this very high priority task. What has been done? What is left to still "iron out? Who should be working on what components ? Let's keep the thoughts on this flowing...
@Albonicomt please read through this thread and watch Joe's video and work with @banderson1618 to come up with some solutions. Thanks!
Joe, I like the direction you want to take this. Several tasks are pretty straight-forward, but the more major changes are going to require more in the weeds detail.
I agree with @banderson1618 that not all of these layers belong in 'Intermediates'. Distance to crossing/canal/road and land use intensity are intermediates (directly derived from inputs). The other 3 layers (areas of potential undesirable impacts from beaver, proximity of water course to human activities, potential source areas) are all outputs derived from those intermediates should be in the 'Outputs' folder.
Easy enough. I'm more than happy to throw out 'probability' since it's not a 'true' statistical probability (just a transform function).
Not so straightforward in that we need to fine-tune the logic and thresholds
Here are the living with beaver categories and the conditional logic in the management model:
Living with Beaver (Low Source)
Living with Beaver (High Source)
Some questions:
Sorry for late response here @banderson1618: *** IN PROGRESS
It seems to me that there are some structural questions we should ask about this. What if we generated oPC_Score in the Conversation and Restoration Model (since it uses conflict as an input), and then have the conflict map that @joewheaton produced as an optional step? I'd appreciate thoughts on this, since it's hard to move forward on development without a clear idea of what the end product should look like.
Good point. We are talking about adding some additional attribute fields to a table. I don't know what table (or shapefile) makes the most sense to be honest. I'm fine with this whole 'Human Beaver Conflict' folder getting run in an 'optional' thing, and I like it having its own shapefile. All we need is to preserve a reachID so we can do a spatial join to the other original BRAT table. I think we've gotten a little stumbled up by trying to keep everything in one shapefile and its attribute table. So my suggestions here are:
Make a new shapefile called AnthroConstraints.shp
in the following path:
MyBratProject\Intermediates\AnthroConstraints\AC001\
where AC0001
is an autopopulated index for what realization of this is being run. oPC_Score
all together and replace with a oAC
for output Anthropogenic Constraints, which will be categorical and the 'primary' output of this AnthroConstraints.shp
shapefile. Its categories should be:
Background I would like to see our management model improved. Currently, we use the following lines of evidence:
We use the above to calculate a probability of conflict based on notion that the closer you are the higher the potential for conflict (simple transform function between distance and probability). We calculate this independently for each of these, but then just go with max probability (or worse of most conservative).
What we'd like I'd like to see us separate out: What are the potential impacts:
What are the tolerances for beaver or mitigation: Could be:
To get started:
Discussion Ideas 👍
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,eDamDens
andeDAMPcC
(from attribute table) to say if you already have lots of dams in close proximity, is conflict actually pretty low? Ask if mitigation taking place, or lethal removal, etc.?