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pyBRAT - Beaver Restoration Assessment Tool (Python)
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Beaver Dam Censusing - Desktop Web App #74

Closed wally-mac closed 6 years ago

wally-mac commented 6 years ago

@webernick79 this is a request to develop a form that will allow users to collect dam location data in ESRI Web App. This is very similar to the #32 but is focused on ESRI Web App in the context of having an internet connection. The idea here is that it would provide an alternative to Google Earth. If you don't have time to do this @chadFHC and @banderson1618 can help out. Similar to the other awesome Survey123 forms that you have developed this form should have a drop down form that would allow the user to collect:

active dams inactive dams stock ponds (as training data for AI) lodges primary dams (optional) secondary (optional) record how confident they are in their “call” i.e., high, medium or low. record the date of the imagery

This app would also allow users to collect additional information such as: Known conflict areas Beaver translocation areas BDA loctions Sensitive infrastructure

The thought is here that the app could be extended beyond just dam counts.

The rationale for app is our current method of using Google Earth is wrought with flaws. It's clunky for users to collect data in Google Earth because of difficulties in assigning attributes resulting in time-consuming data collection.

It's difficult for novice users to create KMZ files and even more difficult for them to save the files therefore there is a high potential to lose data.

The advantages of having an app is that it can eliminate the above issues all together. @bangen please chime in if you have any suggestions. Kristen Wilson has indicated a need for this because she thinks the Google Earth process is too complicated for the USFS personnel.

nick4rivers commented 6 years ago

@wally-mac and @bangen, OK. Arc Explorer is the mobile app. I think we are talking an ESRI Web App, used on the desktop. For sure...I think this could be really sweet, and like you said, totally blow away the use of google earth. Data will flow straight into standard Arc formats.

I'll try putting together a prototype this weekend, and totally look into options for recording the imagery source and date. Like we discussed, maybe we can use base imagery from a server.

wally-mac commented 6 years ago

@webernick79 you are correct. I'll edit the ticket. And thank you for your willingness to jump on it!

chadFHC commented 6 years ago

This would save so much time.

bangen commented 6 years ago

That all sounds good to me.

As far as the 4 additional data pieces Wally suggested (known conflict areas, BDA locations, beaver translocation areas, sensitive infrastructure) from an analyses standpoint these should be separate feature classes. Thoughts?

wally-mac commented 6 years ago

I think so.

nick4rivers commented 6 years ago

Hey @wally-mac and @bangen

Put some time into this effort here and there this weekend. Bottom line is yes, we should be able to set up a web app that has the functionality we are looking for:

I should be able to cook up a good prototype tomorrow, but this whole ESRI app ecosystem is so convoluted, slow, and buggy I might just smash my computer instead.

wally-mac commented 6 years ago

Thanks for the update. Continue to keep us posted.

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Put some time into this effort here and there this weekend. Bottom line is yes, we should be able to set up a web app that has the functionality we are looking for:

  • Add new features to separate feature layers
  • easy drop down data entry and editing for attributes
  • choose your web-service provider for basemap imagery i.e. we can specify and record what imagery is being evaluated.
  • all data will flow into a web map of our choosing - so really fast and consistent data turnaround, users never need to touch a file, they will just open a browser and start panning and clicking.

I should be able to cook up a good prototype tomorrow, but this whole ESRI app ecosystem is so convoluted, slow, and buggy I might just smash my computer instead.

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nick4rivers commented 6 years ago

For sure,

@wally-mac , here's a census web app. Pretty simple

http://nick-weber.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=70645e6a29fe458b9d8fa6a5e030b48f

nick4rivers commented 6 years ago

Hey @wally-mac @bangen and @joewheaton here is a short video with some examples for using the web app to do a beaver feature census. https://youtu.be/I2bbafb8kxE

Sorry, the video is so long.

Also, here is the web app you can give a try: http://nick-weber.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=70645e6a29fe458b9d8fa6a5e030b48f

If this looks like it would work better than your current workflow let's dial in the final attribute lists, hook up preferred imagery and start using this stuff.

wally-mac commented 6 years ago

@chadFHC please take this for a "test drive" and provide @webernick79 your feedback. Thank you

wally-mac commented 6 years ago

@chadFHC also please use the video tutorial that is provided.

chadFHC commented 6 years ago

Will do.

chadFHC commented 6 years ago

@webernick79 @wally-mac This format looks like it would save a ton of time. I like the option of using ArcGIS Online directly and being able to symbolize the different features. I think this would be a great alternative to the way we are currently counting dams.

nick4rivers commented 6 years ago

Sounds good @chadFHC and @wally-mac 👍

Chad, I think this is totally something you can cook up yourself and get your people rolling with. Key components would be:

Let me know if there's more I can help with? I can create some Survey123 videos if that would help? But the tutorials on YouTube from ESRI are also really good and cover most of what you need.

chadFHC commented 6 years ago

@webernick79 @wally-mac Thanks, Nick. I will start working on some of those this afternoon to see if I can figure it out. If I need any extra help I'll let ya know!

chadFHC commented 6 years ago

@webernick79 This is really slick. I was wondering if you could just walk me through how to add the basemap using the "Layer from the Web" as the source. I've never done that before, but I'm sure it's pretty simple. Thanks!

chadFHC commented 6 years ago

@webernick79 Hey Nick, I don't mean to keep bothering you, but I am somewhat new to ArcGIS Online. Could you briefly go over just adding the survey to a map and then creating the actual webapp?

nick4rivers commented 6 years ago

For sure @chadFHC , believe me, this stuff is super frustrating. Wanna do a GoTo. I think if I made a video it would end up being too long and too many gb.

How's 11:30 sound for a goto meeting and I'll walk you through a bunch?

meeting link: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/325743797

chadFHC commented 6 years ago

@webernick79 Sounds good.

wally-mac commented 6 years ago

Thanks Nick and Chad we now have a working version that is already saving time! I'm closing this issue.