Closed philipbaileynar closed 3 years ago
Generating this dataset only adds two steps to the HAND process. Here is a hand project with twi added.
Very cool @KellyMWhitehead. I'm having a play... I need to figure out what the hypothetical range of possible values we can produce in this and figure out how we scale this. However, even off a 10 m DEM, we're seeing some really cool patterns that I think are going to be quite helpful as a line of evidence.
@lauren-herbine, @shelbysawyer and @nick4rivers you might all be interested in this too.
To learn about what this TWI, use HAND as a frame of reference:
If we use TWI = 10 (more liberal/inclusive)
then if we use TWI = 15 (somewhat restrictive)
a TWI = 25:
Anyhow... interesting.
@joewheaton this looks really cool. A couple of quick questions: TWI is an indication of depth to water table- but it is dimensionless, yes? I am not entirely sure I understand what is happening when you set the TWI (to 10, 15, etc.). Are you excluding values greater than the upper bounds that you are setting?
Potentially the mainstem is showing up as no data as the slope is near zero (ln(a/S))?
To echo @lauren-herbine's comment, I am also confused about how changing thresholds affects the layer behavior.
Shelby and I's question answered in person
Leaving a note here so we remember to return to this:
TWI uses slope in its calculation.. so if we use it as a line of evidence, we'll be weighting slope more heavily. Something to think about.
Leaving a note here so we remember to return to this:
TWI uses slope in its calculation.. so if we use it as a line of evidence, we'll be weighting slope more heavily. Something to think about.
Yes, the two lines of evidence clearly are not independent as TWI is dependent on slope. However, the argument for including both is when either one by itself provides useful insight, but without both we would not be as effectively identifying the valley bottom. So the litmus tests should be:
Our bigger challenge will be whether or not we can get away without drainage area specific transform functions on this?
We might also consider producing a run with TWI and without slope and see how different they are.
TWI is an indication of depth to water table- but it is dimensionless, yes?
No. It actually has dimensions of length. remember (length^/2/ length)/(length/length). What this length scale physically represents is sort of interesting. Is it a "depth' of water? I don't know. How for example does this quantity compare with HAND (height above nearest drainage)?
I am not entirely sure I understand what is happening when you set the TWI (to 10, 15, etc.). Are you excluding values greater than the upper bounds that you are setting?
All I am doing is changing the upper bound of the display so that all values over 10 are green, or all values over 15 are green.
Potentially the mainstem is showing up as no data as the slope is near zero (ln(a/S))?
That's a possibility, but another possibility is the drainage area is not getting correctly passed.
@joewheaton I have a question about TWI related to the updated csv that @KellyMWhitehead provided. I'm noticing a lot of -1 values, which I didn't experience when I queried the layer in Arc / Q. Is the -1 a true TWI output or is there something odd happening somewhere along the way?
@joewheaton I have a question about TWI related to the updated csv that @KellyMWhitehead provided. I'm noticing a lot of -1 values, which I didn't experience when I queried the layer in Arc / Q. Is the -1 a true TWI output or is there something odd happening somewhere along the way?
See #355.
@joewheaton For TauDEM and VBET curation purposes.. checking to see if any specific symbology was favored for TWI?
@joewheaton For TauDEM and VBET curation purposes.. checking to see if any specific symbology was favored for TWI?
No... I didn't find anything. Probably just blues or greens in VBs and warm colors up the slope?
@joewheaton just pointed out that tauDEM includes a tool for calculating Topographic Wetness Index (TWI). It combines slope with a measure of catchment, which intuitively sounds very connected to VBET.
https://hydrology.usu.edu/taudem/taudem5/help53/TopographicWetnessIndex.html
Here is a graphic from a different TWI measure from SAGA GIS. I'm including it just as a visual.
@KellyMWhitehead can you research the tauDEM TWI tool and research the tools that we would have to run in order to have TWI as an evidence raster to VBET? A bit like HAND, before you can run TWI you have to have to run other tauDEM processes. How onerous or easy is this?