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Option for targeted DNA methylation analysis #1557

Closed sr320 closed 1 year ago

sr320 commented 1 year ago

Please check with UW core facility to see if they have any recommendations for sequencing technologies / approaches where we could get DNA methylation information for targeted region / gene.

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

Alrighty, I (nicely) pestered the UW PacBio folks, which is who I was waiting on, and they finally got back to me.

The quick and dirty:

Technically, PacBio sequencing can detect methylation, but there's not a means to do targeted sequencing. So, there'd be a lot of "extra" sequencing data if we opted for that route.

Finally, although I haven't had a chance to read/review it, it looks like you can do targeted methylation sequencing using the NanoPore (big thanks to the UW PacBio people for the suggestion)!

https://nanoporetech.com/knowledge-exchange/methylation-detection-with-nanopore-sequencing-rrms

sr320 commented 1 year ago

Can you check with nanopore core https://sites.google.com/uw.edu/uwnanopore/service-rates?authuser=1 on options?

We have 40 samples but are only interested in sequencing ~4kb region of genome.

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

Can you check with nanopore core

Can do for <$5,000. A more accurate price can/will be provided when we submit an official quote request.

Would need at least 500ng DNA per sample.

Would provide 40 - 70x sequencing depth per sample.

sr320 commented 1 year ago

What is the technology for library prep? How do you get a single region?

sr320 commented 1 year ago

Please go ahead and get an official quote.

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

What is the technology for library prep? How do you get a single region?

NanoPore offers a Cas9 kit which performs some cleavage and the adds some adapter tailing to the excised region.

However, the person I spoke to suggested that Cas9 is a pain (finicky and labor intensive), but he didn't make clear what the alternative is. I've asked for some additional clarification/insight.

sr320 commented 1 year ago

NanoPore offers a Cas9 kit which performs some cleavage and the adds some adapter tailing to the excised region

so this is something we would have to do or they would do as part of the quote?

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

They do all of this (it's part of library prep). We just submit DNA.

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

Official quote:

sr320 commented 1 year ago

Official quote: $7914.41

can we get a quote reducing the samples from 40 to 20?

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

Updated quote request submitted.

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

They just got back to me today (with an apology for the delay):

sr320 commented 1 year ago

awaiting Rick greenlight.

sr320 commented 1 year ago

@kubu4 Rick says this is a go.. can you find out what they want as starting material?

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

From their website:

For DNA submission, please run a standard or pulsed-field gel, BioAnalyzer, or TapeStation to visualize DNA quality and length before submitting. If your sample looks degraded, re-extract the sample or plan for shorter read lengths.

Additional guidelines:

Total material requirements for whole-genome sequencing are 6 µg. Minimum volume is 10 µL. Ideal concentration range is 60 ng/µL to 120 ng/µL. For best results, use a high molecular weight DNA extraction protocol. Do not use DNA isolation protocols containing glycogen. Extraction methods should preserve long fragment lengths and avoid repetitive mechanical pipetting or spin columns. We strongly recommend using an RNase during DNA extraction. Ideal submissions are RNA- and protein-free. Ensure that your elution buffer does not contain residual denaturants (salts, phenol) or detergents (Triton, SDS). Avoid freeze–thaw cycles, and do not expose to high temperatures (>65°C) for more than 1 hour. Ship DNA in LoBind microcentrifuge tubes or LoBind PCR plates (Eppendorf). Pad and insulate your samples to minimize shearing during shipping.

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

Just a heads up, the quote is good through 8/7/2023, so samples will need to be submitted very soon. Do you know the status of the samples? We'll need Rick to fill out a sample sheet manifest. I'll track it down and get it uploaded here.

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

Sample manifest is attached.

UW-NSC Sample Submission Form.xlsx

kubu4 commented 1 year ago

Oof, just got off the phone with the core facility. They are unable to perform multiplexing to get sufficient sequencing depth. They don't know why, but they basically said they won't be able to go forward with this project, unless we wanted to run samples on individual flow cells (which would increase the costs substantially).

Suggestion/question from core facility was whether or not we could do bisulfite sequencing and then targeted qPCR... They were just tossing out ideas.