Closed alvarosanuy closed 4 months ago
Some versions, need some more input...
Some more ideas...
The broken lines could work, or the land as patches where in between the non drawn is the waterfall...
And I could not find AZUBL color in the colorProfile file, or do I miss that color in mine?
@MikusRL From IHO GI Registry 'Colout Tokens'
@alvarosanuy That is an IENC color token, it doesn't exist in the S-101 PC. We could add it if desired, but it looks like the Dusk and Night color are almost the same value, so I wonder if it would be too bright at night.
Portrayal subWG meeting - 12th January 2023
The subWG decided to refer proposals to update existing symbology or develop new one to the NCWG. This is to provide an opportunity to harmonise presentation among different charting products and ensure concepts and definitions between S-4 and DCEG stay aligned.
Alvaro to submit this issue for discussion at the next NCWG meeting in November 2023. Issue will remain open until feedback is received by the NCWG.
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Re Test Datasets TDS 5 contains a Point Waterfall, so Test Data exists pending NCWG discussions.
https://github.com/iho-ohi/S-101-Test-Datasets/tree/main/dev/cells/101AA00DS0005/4
@alvarosanuy I think this issue can have Test Data Needed removed. As above test data exists.
@alvarosanuy I think this issue can have Test Data Needed removed. As above test data exists.
Done. Thanks.
Paper submitted to NCWG9 (Nov 2023). Will leave this issue open until we get feedback from NCWG Chair.
Waterfall Symbol:
A summary pending the formal minutes from the outcome of our discussion at NCWG.
We have done some drafting of the proposed symbol for waterfalls to share with the S-101 portrayal sub-WG.
NCWG is not stating this is the finalised solution, but requesting the symbol is developed along these lines.
Nick (NCWG VC)
Australia presented what was discussed at NCWG 8, waterfalls were agreed to be a valuable aid to navigation, however, point symbols are not visualized and it was agreed they should be. If a point is required, then a symbol is required. Canada asked if this should be in S-126, the physical environment, rather than S101? USA said in ENCs, US uses a landmark and includes watermark. SE and DK, if there is a symbol then it should be portrayed. Should only the conspicuous features be portrayed and or should we have 2 symbols if the feature is conspic and one is not. The USA asked can black and brown be used to differentiate between conspic and non-conspic respectively, as shown in S-52? This would prevent the requirement for 2 new symbols. Colour options include: Black = CHBLK Brown = LANDF Blue = AZUBL The proposed symbol is large, the top 3 lines would be sufficient. Further simplification would be better. Prefer this as an option: Q: or is legend waterfall as appropriate? A: they prefer not to use legends on ENCs as it can’t be controlled in terms of positioning, it can be controlled in S-101 however the text will be wide and take up a lot of room. Later in the week UK shared their idea for a waterfall; Norway and Latvia said they liked this. The Chair said that if everyone is happy with UK example, they can provide to the portrayal sub-group
Outcome: NCWG recommends a symbol which should be even more simplified, and provides the following draft as guide on which further development may be done.
@alvarosanuy @MatthewCraggs @NickRodwell The UK will work to create the required symbol here and associated engineering drawing. Outputs will be posted here when ready. It is expected that a few variants will be posted and comments sought but these will reflect the image from NCWG.
@TomRichardson6 & @RichardCoyles - Are you working on a prototype of this symbol (SVG + ED)?
I'm working on a simplified version of this if there are other favoured options, another 2 maybe that I could work up, then there would be a choice of 3 for S-101 portrayal and NCWG to consider. Is there a due date for this?
Decisions made at Portrayal subWG meeting on 09/04/24
Approve WATFAL02
[x] UKHO to Create 'non conspicuous' version (Brown colour) and upload SVG+ED
[x] UKHO to upload S-101 Dataset containing Waterfall features (Conspicuous & non-conspicuous) in a more realistic real world scenario (i.e. on land, close to the coast, etc)
[x] NIWC to map WATFAL02 to Waterfall feature having visualProminence=1
[x] NIWC to map Non-Conspicuous symbol (TBC) to Waterfall feature having visualProminence<>1
[x] NIWC to upload OnShore ECDIS screenshots for PsWG review
[ ] PsWG to provide comments by COB 19th of April
[ ] Alvaro to submit new symbols to GI Registry
Target version for deployment is PC 1.3.0
Name | visualProminence |
---|---|
Big Grant Falls | 1 - Visually Conspicuous |
Little Grant Falls | 2 - Not Visually Conspicuous |
Prom Grant Falls | 3 - Prominent |
Text On:
Text Off:
Night:
Updated symbols:
Implemented in PC 1.3.0
At NCWG8 and S101PT9 meetings it was agreed that, in certain circumstances, waterfalls can be a valuable aid to navigation and therefore it was decided to enable the symbolisation of Waterfall features of type Point.
Note that, in S-52:
Based on this, and to provide consistency, it seems logical to either:
Below is an example to trigger your creative side .... For this symbol, I would recommend using colours such as LANDF (for the waterfall boundaries), AZUBL (for the downstream and ripple lines at the bottom of the waterfall) and CHWHT (as the backdrop colour for the area of the waterfall - in between the LANDF and including the area covered by the ripples). If we want to have a 'conspicuous' version we could replace LANDF with CHBLK .....