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Restricted area on Dock area #98

Closed Christian-Shom closed 7 months ago

Christian-Shom commented 2 years ago

From ENCWG "Display Sub WG" There is no need to encode a Coastline feature at the limit of a Dock area. The consequence (because of the display priority) is that an unnecessary line symbol on the coastline. image Needs to be checked if this is still valid in S-101. If yes, the display priorities should be reviewed.

alvarosanuy commented 1 year ago

Portrayal subWG meeting - 12th January 2023

  1. Portrayal needs to be re-assessed once DockArea is removed from the Group1. The DockArea will need to be covered by either DepthArea or UnsurveyedArea or LandArea and this will have an impact on the need for the encoding of COALNE/SLCONS features, etc.
alvarosanuy commented 1 year ago

Decisions made at Portrayal subWG meeting on 10/5/23

  1. Request Test Data. Two different datasets (old and new SOE) are required to compare portrayal behavior.
mikan66 commented 1 year ago

Decisions made at Portrayal subWG meeting on 10/5/23

  1. Request Test Data. Two different datasets (old and new SOE) are required to compare portrayal behavior.

I don't believe there is test data covering this scenario as of this comment date.

alvarosanuy commented 1 year ago

@tomrichardson - Can you please prepare a TDS case as requested above?

alvarosanuy commented 10 months ago

Below are screenshots from an S-101 ENC where DockArea is no longer a Group1 feature (it sits on top of DEPARE and COALNE is a must along the boundary between Land and Water. Based on the current look, I recommend we close this issue. ECDIS1 image image

DavidGrant-NIWC commented 10 months ago

The dock area should not be below the depth area. Can you send us this dataset (or drop it in here) so we can investigate? image

MatthewCraggs commented 10 months ago

101AU005SYD01.zip

DavidGrant-NIWC commented 10 months ago
Edited 10/16 - Fixed the labels so they match the pictures. Dock Area On Dock Area Off
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MatthewCraggs commented 10 months ago
  • Dock area is covering a land area near "Sailing Club" (encoding error?)

Agreed, That is an encoding error!

alvarosanuy commented 10 months ago

Decisions made at Portrayal subWG meeting on 18/10/23

alvarosanuy commented 10 months ago

Paper submitted to NCWG9 (Nov 2023). Will leave this issue open until we get feedback from NCWG Chair.

DavidGrant-NIWC commented 9 months ago

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MikkoHovi-FI commented 9 months ago

According to DCEG (editions 1.1.0 and 1.2.0) Dock Area must not be encoded on top of Depth Area. It is only encoded when the dock is not navigable optimum display scale and must be encoded on Land Area or Unsurveyed Area only.

The blue infill and the "integrated" coastline makes sense when this guidance is followed. As well as drawing the feature on top of Land Area.

The definition of a Dock Area is "An artificially enclosed area within which ships may moor and which may have gates to regulate water level." I would be tempted to claim that the feature in the above example is not a Dock Area.

Also, I would like to remind that even if Dock Area was Group 1 in the earlier versions of S-101, the S-57 DOCARE is not Group 1.

alvarosanuy commented 7 months ago

Area fill has been retained - Refer to PC 1.2.0.

MatthewCraggs commented 6 months ago

Below are the comments from NCWG9.

Restricted area on Dock area: Stakeholders are invited to discuss and debate a new portrayal for DockArea including. The simplest solution could be the addition of a new central symbol to the area to reinforce its purpose.

The Chair noted that according to S-101 DCEG one must not encode dock area on top of depth area, and suggested that the sub-group WG looking into this.

The Chair said NCWG could to return to this topic when we hear back from the sub-group WG.

Outcome: NCWG noted that according to S-101 DCEG a Dock Area feature must be covered by a Land Area or Unsurveyed Area. Therefore the original blue infill is the sensible option.