Open saorabhkr opened 1 year ago
Thanks for reporting! I'll forward this issue to our UI5 Web Components Colleagues as the affected component is developed in their repository.
Hello @saorabhkr,
Thanks for reporting.
I am not sure that I fully understand the issue.
In the example you have provided, the Checkboxes
do have accessible-names
, which are being announced by JAWS and also visible on the Virtual HTML Features Dialog, which screenshot you have also added in your message.
Could you please give a bit more information and steps for reproducing the reported problem so we could help you.
Thanks and Kind Regards, Yana
Hello @saorabhkr,
Thanks for reporting.
I am not sure that I fully understand the issue. In the example you have provided, the
Checkboxes
do haveaccessible-names
, which are being announced by JAWS and also visible on the Virtual HTML Features Dialog, which screenshot you have also added in your message.Could you please give a bit more information and steps for reproducing the reported problem so we could help you.
Thanks and Kind Regards, Yana
Hello @yanaminkova,
Yes you are absolutely right, checkboxes
have accessible-names
but if try navigation with JAWS keyboard help it is printing the common name, it should be unique.
To open JAWS keyboard press ctrl+insert+x. From that window select checkbox
and observe the output. Please do let me know If you need any further help.
More in detail: Please find the below detailed steps to check this issue:
Hope this helps.
Best Regards, Saorabh
We've discussed this question with the central accessibility team and we await for their feedback. I am setting this one to blocked until we receive a response.
Hi @dobrinyonkov, What's the plan for this issue? We got a customer issue about this issue. Would you please fix it ASAP? Thanks, Richard
Hi @GongRichard,
we've explored the possible solutions here:
1) fordward the accessible-name
of the list item to the checkbox - as long as apps provide uniqe accessible names to the items, the checkboxes will also have such.
2) internally set the text content of the list items as label of the checkbox.
3) hide the checkboxes.
There isn't really a general recommendation from the ARIA specification about such pattern. We've submitted a question to the aria practices and patterns repository asking to comment on this.
Let me know if you have any thoughts on the above.
Hi @GongRichard,
After thorough discussions with accessibility experts, we have reached a point that assistive technologies (AT) may autonomously handle the labeling of such cases, as they possess the required contextual understanding.
It needs to be clarified why the labelling in closed context should be handled by web authors or web control developers and not by the user agent or assistive technology (auto-labelling). Assistive technologies are very aware of the context they consume from platform accessibility trees and could provide in their speech output by extended element info triggered by a special key or in their virtual overview dialogs means to identify the very position of e.g. a checkbox in a list/table cell with row/col position and list/table header information.
The opposite would mean, to make the labels really globally unique each and every such control (graphics, inputs, links, buttons, etc.) must be additionally labelled with the list header (there could be multiple list on the screen), the list item info (index / row header) and the column info if we’re inside a table (index / column header). The screenreader output would be horror.
More information and further discussions can be tracked with this GitHub issue: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2810
Kind Regards, Dobrin
After consulting with accessibility experts, we believe that assistive technologies (AT) are best suited to handle labeling in such cases, as they can provide contextual understanding autonomously. We feel this should be managed by the AT, not web authors or developers, to avoid overwhelming users with redundant information.
Best regards, Dobrin
More discussion about this will take place next week, I will post updates after.
Hi @dobrinyonkov, Any progress about this issue? We have customer to complain this issue. Thanks, Richard
Describe the bug
For a List/Tree where we have
MultiSelect
enable we observed unique accessible names are not there for the checkboxesIsolated Example
https://sap.github.io/ui5-webcomponents-react/iframe.html?args=mode:MultiSelect&id=data-display-list--default&viewMode=story
Reproduction steps
Go to List Page
Enable JAWS shortcuts keys Try accessing the checkboxes, and open JAWS shortcuts keys dialog will not have a unique name for checkboxes.
Expected Behaviour
For a List/Tree where we have
MultiSelect
enable all the checkboxes should have a unique names. a unique nameScreenshots or Videos
UI5 Web Components for React Version
v1.12.0
UI5 Web Components Version
v1.11.0
Browser
Chrome
Operating System
No response
Additional Context
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Relevant log output
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