Open cmohge1 opened 3 years ago
Hi Group 4 members,
Here's what I'm exploring for exercise 1 - spurred by Monday's discussion regarding how Victorians viewed the relationship between science and art.
I like how quick it was to gather a few promising insights:
I'm thinking of seeing if adding "novels" into the mix refines the picture even further - I'll let you know what I find.
Please feel free to comment on/ critique what I've done so far - and please do suggests better ways of going about it if any spring to mind!
I'd be delighted to think about how this sort of approach leads to deep insights—is Middlemarch contextually different to explain the differences?
Voyant crashed on me part way through, but I did do a couple of wide-lens word studies on Middlemarch:
Since I'm interested in Rome generally, I thought I'd see what it would look like from a bird's-eye view. It occupies a central place early and then literally fades away like a memory. And I wanted to see the collocation of city and country as the text moves forward. Then the thing crashed and was unavailable, so I moved on.
Ok, I got back in and I uploaded two "marginalia" (or scholia) from ancient commentaries from Homer that I'm working on and compared the two:
The texts are only about 150 words each, so not a lot can be said at this scale—is it possible to "map" over two texts that are generally thought to be from the same source to compare? I'd be interested in that technology.
From this limited bit we can see that Scholia T includes more genealogical information (personal names), but Scholia B includes more narrative.
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I'd be delighted to think about how this sort of approach leads to deep insights—is Middlemarch contextually different to explain the differences?
It's a long time since I've read any Eliot closely or have thought with any rigour about the specific circumstances in which each novel was written, so I'm almost certainly missing a lot of nuance here; nevertheless, I would argue that this change of focus is very much in keeping with the general direction of travel evident in debates about the role of science and the nature (or purpose) of art both at the time and in the following decades. It is around the 1870s that things started to unravel economically and intellectually for what we now call the mid-Victorians (loosely speaking, 1850-1870 or even 1875) - although many of them will not have noticed this yet. Again, I'm oversimplifying, but this is when what once seemed for most to be unquestionable technical superiority and ever-increasing prosperity starts to give way on an increasingly large scale to technical obsolescence and financial decline. Science can do may things, but it is not always very good at providing solace in times of uncertainty and diminishing agency; art, on the other hand, often excels at this, and thus becomes emotionally more relevant.
It was interesting for me to see echoes of this affective shift woven deep into these texts – whether by accident or by design. I always knew the continuity of theme was there, but it was very satisfying to see it both close up (collocations) and at a distance (across the two texts) at the same time. I would not want one without the other – the scale would distort the whole in both cases. Taken together, though, they provide a lot of food for thought.
@Pylaemenes
Ok, I got back in and I uploaded two "marginalia" (or scholia) from ancient commentaries from Homer that I'm working on and compared the two:
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The texts are only about 150 words each, so not a lot can be said at this scale—is it possible to "map" over two texts that are generally thought to be from the same source to compare? I'd be interested in that technology.
Have you seen Juxta? https://juxtasoftware.org/ Might do what you need.
Yes, I have used Juxta (I also know the developer, as he worked with me on the Melville Electronic Library). It can be a powerful collation tool, but it is not being maintained.
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Ok, I got back in and I uploaded two "marginalia" (or scholia) from ancient commentaries from Homer that I'm working on and compared the two: [image: Screen Shot 2020-12-09 at 5 42 01 PM] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/75645297/101697849-85b0a480-3a46-11eb-9dad-ca4010c44be3.png
The texts are only about 150 words each, so not a lot can be said at this scale—is it possible to "map" over two texts that are generally thought to be from the same source to compare? I'd be interested in that technology.
Have you seen Juxta? https://juxtasoftware.org/
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