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Table 2 #125

Closed teixeirak closed 4 years ago

teixeirak commented 4 years ago

From Lawren:

Suggest to run an ANOVA on each trait (and/or a MANOVA on all traits) and put the significance values in a new row in Table 3. (BTW also suggest limiting values in Table 3 to 3 sig figs, and presenting SE in that Table with the means rather than SD)."*

teixeirak commented 4 years ago

I started to edit this table (now Table 2) for sig figs, but didn't finish.

@mcgregorian1 , could you please finish? And, if you have energy for it, maybe change to SE and add significance values? (Although the latter probably isn't necessary since we have FIg. S3)

mcgregorian1 commented 4 years ago

I've finished changing for the 3 significant digits.

Quick thing for SE - because for cato we only have one observation for the hydraulic traits, the SE is NA, and same thing for fagr for TLP.

I will keep going forward with adding this to the table unless I hear otherwise.

teixeirak commented 4 years ago

Sounds good. Please be sure to note that we need to update the table called hand_formatted.

Almost there with the revisions! It’s a lot. I’m pretty drained, but excited to finish.

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I've finished changing for the 3 significant digits.

Quick thing for SE - because for cato we only have one observation for the hydraulic traits, the SE is NA, and same thing for fagr for TLP.

I will keep going forward with adding this to the table unless I hear otherwise.

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mcgregorian1 commented 4 years ago

Ok! I'm updating now. Please let me know what else you'd like me to do tomorrow.

teixeirak commented 4 years ago

Highest priority is that significance test of traits across species.

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mcgregorian1 commented 4 years ago

You mean just putting that in correct? I thought I did the actual calculation already and updated one of the figures?

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teixeirak commented 4 years ago

This is basically done, but we also need it for wood density and LMA. Below are the sentences (results section) where we need this info. Please edit as appropriate.

Species traits (wood density, $LMA$, $PLA{dry}$, and $\pi{tlp}$) varied significantly among species (all p<0.05 in ANOVA; Table 2, Fig. S4). Drought resistance also varied across species and by drought (Fig. 3).

mcgregorian1 commented 4 years ago

So to clarify, for the figures you still only want the four main traits (height, TWI, TLP, PLA), correct?

Also, I'm not sure we can say "...varied significantly among species." The anova / tukeyhsd test shows which sp-sp pairings have significant differences. So looking at Fig. S4, for example, we can say for TLP that fram is significantly different from juni, but fram is not significantly different from caco, cagl, caovl, cato, and fagr.

Similarly, when I do the test for WD, I get litu is sig diff from caco but it is not sig dif from 8 other species. LMA is a little "worse" (i.e. very little significant differences). I think the most we can say is that significant difference varied among species, with the highest diversity of sig diff found in PLA and WD.

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This is basically done, but we also need it for wood density and LMA. Below are the sentences (results section) where we need this info. Please edit as appropriate.

Species traits (wood density, $LMA$, $PLA{dry}$, and $\pi{tlp}$) varied significantly among species (all p<0.05 in ANOVA; Table 2, Fig. S4). Drought resistance also varied across species and by drought (Fig. 3).

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mcgregorian1 commented 4 years ago

For reference, here's the output for WD and LMA

WD image

LMA image