Closed mark-jensen closed 8 years ago
Eventually will need to add 'educational criteria' and 'educational institution', per indicators 4.3.1 & 12.8.1.
@phismith noted that
education process
is ambiguous and should be separated into two classes:
Thus:
educator role
and educatee role
To phrase this in terms of production and consumption (cf. #16):
Education involves both the services, like teaching, and goods, such as curricula
UNESCO offers a definition of "education for sustainable development"
“Education for Sustainable Development (ESD) is a learning process (or approach to teaching) based on the ideals and principles that underlie sustainability and is concerned with all levels and types of learning to provide quality education and foster sustainable human development – learning to know, learning to be, learning to live together, learning to do and learning to transform oneself and society.”
@pbuttigieg @phismith
'educating process' = A part of an education process in which an educator imparts knowledge or skill to one or more educatees, or takes steps to alter their behaviour according to some plan.
'process of being educated' = A planned process in which at least one educatee acquires knowledge and skill, or has their behaviour modified by at least one educator.
Will these be subclasses as well as parts of some education process
? If so, perhaps education process
is simply a composition of one, or both.
The correct strategy for such cases is to define
whole education process
and then to define these as parts of whole education process
But that is somewhat ugly. I think just to define them as parts should be enough.
I think the second definition should be the mirror image of the first Also 'educatee' is a bit clumsy (and would need defining in a non-circular way) which would be hard . I would suggest
education process' = a planned process in which knowledge or skill is imparted'
'educating process' = A part of an education process in which a person imparts knowledge or skill
'process of being educated' = A part of an education process in which one person acquires knowledge or skill
Can you give me your argument for including 'or has their behaviour modified'? BS
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Mark Jensen notifications@github.com wrote:
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'educating process' = A part of an education process in which an educator imparts knowledge or skill to one or more educatees, or takes steps to alter their behaviour according to some plan.
'process of being educated' = A planned process in which at least one educatee acquires knowledge and skill, or has their behaviour modified by at least one educator.
Will these be subclasses as well as parts of some education process? If so, perhaps education process is simply a composition of one, or both.
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education process' = a planned process in which knowledge or skill is imparted'
'educating process' = A part of an education process in which a person imparts knowledge or skill
'process of being educated' = A part of an education process in which one person acquires knowledge or skill
Shall all three of these be siblings under 'planned process'?
Can you give me your argument for including 'or has their behaviour modified'?
I think it should be dropped. Behavior being altered will follow from the acquisition of knowledge and skills, but in itself is not the goal of education.
Mark
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Mark Jensen notifications@github.com wrote:
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'educating process' = A part of an education process in which an educator imparts knowledge or skill to one or more educatees, or takes steps to alter their behaviour according to some plan.
'process of being educated' = A planned process in which at least one educatee acquires knowledge and skill, or has their behaviour modified by at least one educator.
Will these be subclasses as well as parts of some education process? If so, perhaps education process is simply a composition of one, or both.
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Yes But then this should be added to the definitions, perhaps thus:
'educating process' = A part of an education process that is a planned process in which a person imparts knowledge or skill
'process of being educated' = A part of an education process that is a planned process in which one person acquires knowledge or skill
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Mark Jensen notifications@github.com wrote:
education process' = a planned process in which knowledge or skill is imparted'
'educating process' = A part of an education process in which a person imparts knowledge or skill
'process of being educated' = A part of an education process in which one person acquires knowledge or skill
Shall all three of these be siblings under 'planned process'?
Can you give me your argument for including 'or has their behaviour modified'?
I think it should be dropped. Behavior being altered will follow from the acquisition of knowledge and skills, but in itself is not the goal of education.
Mark
BS
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Mark Jensen notifications@github.com wrote:
@pbuttigieg https://github.com/pbuttigieg @phismith https://github.com/phismith
'educating process' = A part of an education process in which an educator imparts knowledge or skill to one or more educatees, or takes steps to alter their behaviour according to some plan.
'process of being educated' = A planned process in which at least one educatee acquires knowledge and skill, or has their behaviour modified by at least one educator.
Will these be subclasses as well as parts of some education process? If so, perhaps education process is simply a composition of one, or both.
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https://github.com/SDG-InterfaceOntology/sdgio/issues/36#issuecomment-159023728
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The distinction between formal and informal still needs to addressed, that can happen in a different thread, since it will related to several classes (e.g., employment, education) and the solution will most likely carry between them all.
Closing for now.
'education' = A planned process that has the specified objective to increase knowledge, obtain skills, and alter behavior.
A planned process with a specified objective because it is not clear if one can educate themselves accidentally. The objectives need refinement.
Derived from SNOMEDCT http://purl.bioontology.org/ontology/SNOMEDCT/409073007