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Represent fragile states #52

Open pbuttigieg opened 8 years ago

pbuttigieg commented 8 years ago

Classifications and indices of countries considered to be affected by or at risk for conflict exist and would be valuable material to feed into SDGIO.

Examples include the Harmonized List of Fragile Situations (World Bank), and the Fragile States Index (Fund for Peace).

phismith commented 8 years ago

Fragile state =: a state which is at risk of loss of centralized government control

mark-jensen commented 8 years ago

loss of centralized government control

may be too specific, there are other ways a state can be considered fragile--such as weak health or education services. I think...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragile_state

My first thought is that a fragile state is one that bears a risk disposition, one towards institutional collapse or decentralization of services, etc. However, for that to work a state has to be an independent continuant.

'state' is used here is in the sense of sovereign state, territory, region, etc. We will need to add terms like this to the ontology I believe.

phismith commented 8 years ago

A state is indeed an independent continuant

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Mark Jensen notifications@github.com wrote:

loss of centralized government control

may be too specific, there are other ways a state can be considered fragile--such as weak health or education services. I think...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragile_state

My first thought is that a fragile state is one that bears a risk disposition, one towards institutional collapse or decentralization of services, etc. However, for that to work a state has to be an independent continuant.

'state' is used here is in the sense of sovereign state, territory, region, etc. We will need to add terms like this to the ontology I believe.

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mark-jensen commented 8 years ago

An 'organization'?

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Barry Smith notifications@github.com wrote:

A state is indeed an independent continuant

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Mark Jensen notifications@github.com wrote:

loss of centralized government control

may be too specific, there are other ways a state can be considered fragile--such as weak health or education services. I think...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragile_state

My first thought is that a fragile state is one that bears a risk disposition, one towards institutional collapse or decentralization of services, etc. However, for that to work a state has to be an independent continuant.

'state' is used here is in the sense of sovereign state, territory, region, etc. We will need to add terms like this to the ontology I believe.

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phismith commented 8 years ago

BFO is a non-multiplicative ontology

The person, human being, animal, and organism are all identical (For DOLCE they are all different, they just coincide, or related by the composes relation)

When we try to take the same approach to organizations by having

then we run into problems because the same group of people might compose both a football team and a jury.

We solve this problem by defining the organization as a group of people in which different people play different, specified roles (for instance quarterback, president ...) BS

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Mark Jensen notifications@github.com wrote:

An organization?

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