depressobbq commented 3 years ago

Proton has come quite a long way in the time since steam started pushing it. and while I am aware, that porting the software to linux as a whole would require rewrites and a ton of effort to get the telemetry working, almost all the supported games work either out of the box or with minor modifications in linux thanks to proton, and all the major steering wheels have driver / FFB support as well. So my question is (mods tag this as a feature req plz) can we get support for simhub in either WINE, Lutris, or Proton ? All of them are forked from WINE itself and use it as a dependency, it should be possible to get telemetry from a game thats in the same prefix that you are running simhub from, lutris for instance supports running other programs on the side. so it should be possible to pass an install to a proton prefix and add simhub right to an installed game on steam.

SHWotever commented 3 years ago

Hi ! I'm afraid this is totally out of my reach, since i'm alone behind the scene trying to add Linux compatibility would make the release cycle too complex and too heavy (test everything twice with windows and linux and deal with each platform specificities), not counting my linux knowledge which is basically at zero level :(

depressobbq commented 3 years ago

i get it man, its a tough ask. i may play around with the present release and see what errors it throws on attempting to run it in WINE (my linux knowledge isnt at god level but i know my way around) if it ends up running i will keep you posted.

SkylightXD commented 3 months ago

Hello together, are there any news or try to get SimHub running in Linux? :)

depressobbq commented 3 months ago

last time I spoke to the dev he indicated this wasnt a priority. in the time since i've done some research on my own. SimHub itself is all of a few libraries away from being able to "run" in proton, but thats only half the problem. the other half is the telemetry data alot of these games hook into apis that dont exist in linux. (some dont) and its real hit or miss as to if you can even get the telemetry out of the game correctly. then the serial subsystem of linux (how you control your "gauges") is a totally different animal to windows, that while i'm not a dev on this myself i'd have to wager a guess would require extensive re-writes to major parts of the code. on top of all this there's the force feedback. not all wheels FFB is operational in *nix yet. things like the DD and the Moza come to mind. as much as id love to abandon windows in my sim rig... its just not ready yet my friend.

side note this isnt the only hobby that this issue crops up on. VPin machines suffer the same issues. you can't get the fancy physical bits to talk in linux even if you can get the "game" running.

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alkaris2 commented 1 month ago

@depressobbq Many Linux embedded devices have their own specifics for interacting with hardware with haptics and sensor devices that are controlled with an API, code for haptics obviously is one that already exists for many Linux devices, especially when they can handle hardware devices for Braille which relies on such feedback for certain things. While not a job for one person to manage and test on their own, or to code from scratch, but the code base for it can be adapted for more than just Braille.

Euro Truck Simulator 2 for example has both native versions for Windows and Linux, and modding the game with extended functionality passed to real hardware would be relatively simple too since it uses FMOD. Many games that utilize FMOD when allowing mods to be made for the game. If SimHub uses FMOD porting code wouldn't be necessary for other platforms, since the game would just use and read the FMOD scripts.

depressobbq commented 1 month ago

thats a pretty big IF, now while you arent wrong and I can think of a few games that use fmod. not all do the ones that dont arent going to suddenly switch for us linux nerds. and then there is the other stuff simhub does. each one will require different levels of F around and find out to get working right. things like addressing serial devices for example are totally different from windows to linux. the sound subsystems used to generate vibrations in the bass shakers is another I can think of that wouldnt be as easy as just making it work in proton. I suppose all this could be sorted out in the future, but we gotta remember our place here. we are linux users that are the 2% of PC gamers, and of that 2% theres what maybe 20 of us floating around interested in simming on linux? Id love to see it happen, but dude already told me flat it wasnt a priority. im surprised the issues not closed up on us already.

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Euro Truck Simulator 2 for example has both native versions for Windows and Linux, and modding the game with extended functionality passed to real hardware would be relatively simple too since it uses FMOD. Many games that utilize FMOD when allowing mods to be made for the game. If SimHub uses FMOD porting code wouldn't be necessary for other platforms, since the game would just use and read the FMOD scripts.

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