Closed kwa20 closed 3 years ago
@bernardsilenou @Candice-Louw This might be interesting to implement for other diseases too, we might want to check where it would apply.
Further refinement point:
@kwa20 We have a similar model for diseases like dengue or plague
@kwa20 As more information keeps coming in from experts, to sound as if this variable need to be added to the sample or pathogen test. The reason is that the to know the mutant, you need to so some sequencing which happens to be a test type. Thus this may just be an attribute of a "sequencing pathogen test". More information would follow
@Juliane-D
@bernardsilenou Ok, I think it still makes sense next to the disease. Maybe we can add some kind of logic that updates this field depending on the corresponding test. This would of course make things a bit more complicated.
@kwa20 Ja, thats fine. The additional point that i am making is that since this is related to molecular surveillance, we may need to collect data not just the variant name.
@bernardsilenou SurvNet also requires a Typ ID, if this is not applicable internationally, we might just add this field for germany.
@kwa20 I do not know what Typ ID means in SurvNet, so can't tell. Please can you check what it means? If it is something related to the sequencing throughput, then it would be better to add to the pathogen test
In regards to this issue, also add a "Typing ID" free text field. This field should be enabled when COVID-19 is selected as the disease. The typing ID will also be transmitted via DEMIS in the future so this field should be also enabled through the Lab message interface and eventually automatically adopted.
@kwa20 I have a suggestion in case i now understand you. This variable is "typing id" not t"ype id", right? Then it is about genotyping. This implies this variable is similar to the Cq/Ct that only applies to any of the type of the test types that corresponds to genetic typing. The "pathogen test form" + "type of test" options are not disease specific, since a person having covid can also have another test performed on the same sample for another disease. It would be better to show the typing id based on the type of test.
To change:
What do you think about this pls?
@bernardsilenou yes, I think this is what we're looking for.
Here is also the collection of variables for a drop-down field for variants:
@bernardsilenou Is this fine with you?
@MateStrysewske @bernardsilenou - Please take note of pull request in https://github.com/hzi-braunschweig/SORMAS-Project/issues/4042 which may conflict/complement with SurvNet specifications/mappings as required and stipulated here.
RKI specifications 27-Jan-21 10:18:
the information about the mutations is very urgent. Therefore we also finished this Survnet version at very short notice. From the RKI's point of view, the relevant 3 fields should be included in the SORMAS SurvNet interface as soon as possible. These are:
The catalog of mutations will certainly expand several times in the short term.
In addition, the case definition of COVID-19 was changed on December 23. slightly adjusted. These changes should also be adopted in SORMAS, if they have not already been done.
de-DE:
die Informationen zu den Mutationen sind sehr dringlich. Daher haben wir auch diese Survnet-Version sehr kurzfristig fertiggestellt. Aus meiner Sicht sollten die relevanten 3 Felder möglichst umgehend in die SORMAS-SurvNet-Schnittstelle aufgenommen werden. Das sind:
TypisierungsID: Wert wird via DEMIS gemeldet, muss also aus der DEMIS-Meldung übernommen werden. Diese ID wird benötigt, dass die auf anderem Weg am RKI vorliegenden Sequenzen mit den Meldedaten verknüpfen zu können. MutationCVD: Feld mit Katalog zur Auswahl der wichtigen Mutationen MutationCVDDetails: Freitext-Feld, um bei Bedarf andere Mutationen eintragen zu können
Der Katalog der Mutationen wird sich sicher kurzfristig noch mehrfach erweitern.
Zusätzlich wurde die Falldefinition von COVID-19 zum 23.12. etwas angepasst. Diese Änderungen sollten also auch in SORMAS, wenn noch nicht geschehen, übernommen werden.
@Candice-Louw @bernardsilenou I don't fully understand whether the typing ID is related to the case itself or related to the tests performed on samples of the case. Can you concretise that for me?
@MateStrysewske isssue #4042 is about the variant of the case when provided by user. @This issue is similar but provided by the pathogen test. @kwa20 @Candice-Louw I do not know if typing id is the same as variant. Typing is generally a Technic to determine the variant of the disease, it can be PCR, sequencing etc. How does the typing id from Demis looks like?
@bernardsilenou @MateStrysewske Technically, this issue is about both, the variant in the case information and the typing ID provided by the pathogen test. The Typing ID is for molecular surveillance so it belongs to the sample and pathogen test whereas the variant is part of the case that provides information about the variant that the person is infected with.
@kwa20 Okay, that means the typing ID is nothing that needs to be considered for #4042 because that's strictly about the virus variant. I will rename this issue then.
@bernardsilenou @kwa20 Please confirm that this is correct:
typingId
(text) to pathogen testsI don't think there's more we have to do in terms of this issue, right? Everything associated with the virus variant will be handled in #4042.
@MateStrysewske Limit the condition of enabling the field only to the test type, not the disease because this might also be relevant for other diseases beside COVID-19.
I don't think there's more we have to do in terms of this issue, right? Everything associated with the virus variant will be handled in #4042.
If the specifications are met there then yes.
@bernardsilenou @kwa20 I have some short followup questions:
This is how it looks right now:
@DavidBaldsiefen Since the typing ID is only relevant under specific circumstances, I wouldn't include it in the overview
I think its perfect as you did. The typing would be a long txt, better just free txt Micro array is hardly used, thus good to say at bottom When we would latter map the type of test to disease then we can order, no order exist for now.
@DavidBaldsiefen Please can you add space between typing and id?
@DavidBaldsiefen Please can you add space between typing and id?
Sure, it's just a placeholder at the moment. German translation would be "Typisierungs ID", right?
@DavidBaldsiefen Please can you add space between typing and id?
Sure, it's just a placeholder at the moment. German translation would be "Typisierungs ID", right?
Yes please, my point is only valid for the English version in case this is not the variable name on the form (front end).
Validated ticket on the latest version of SORMAS Version: 1.55.0-SNAPSHOT on the local environment
typingId
(text) to pathogen tests