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[Feature] Utilize catalyst to make a Mac app #115

Closed kcmannem closed 4 years ago

kcmannem commented 5 years ago

I feel octal could be great Mac app. I often read HN on my computer more than my phone. Even something like a basic port would suffice.

goranmoomin commented 5 years ago

YMMV, but... I don’t like Marzipan (and Catalyst).

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kcmannem commented 5 years ago

well its either that or nothing at all

zshbleaker commented 4 years ago

Hope to see Octal the Mac. Just reserve a sit for it on my Dock.

dangwu commented 4 years ago

Interesting idea but I don’t even have enough bandwidth to handle iPads 🤔

goranmoomin commented 4 years ago

OK, this sounds like bit of an ad but I'm trying to make a macOS AppKit HN app - https://github.com/pcr910303/HackerNews. You all might want to check it out... (It's in heavy development so...)

dangwu commented 4 years ago

That's super cool dude! Congrats! Do you have an iPad app with the same code?

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goranmoomin commented 4 years ago

@dangwu No, I'm not trying to make an iOS one - I'm already using Octal 👍

I have to rewrite the whole app in UIKit if I want to make one - seems unlikely.

luckman212 commented 4 years ago

Just throwing my hat in the ring: I absolutely hate Marzipan or whatever it's called. I have a few apps on my Mac that use it - they are ugly and borderline unusable as far as speed, UX etc.

I appreciate the goal of cross platform apps and less work for developers but I'd rather use a Qt app (or an Electron one) than Marzipan any day. It's mostly a toy in its current form.

goranmoomin commented 4 years ago

@luckman212 I'm surprised you hate Catalyst (the new name of Marzipan) but is fine with Electron or Qt. Both aren't really optimal UX on macOS (compared to Cocoa apps), and I find Catalyst is faster than Electon since it doesn't spin up a new Chrome instance. While Qt is not slow as Electron, it's super ugly, at least for me.

luckman212 commented 4 years ago

@pcr910303 I hate the memory use and slow startup time of Electron, but once they're warmed up, the experience isn't that bad (VSCode for example).

Can you name a single Marzipan app that doesn't look & feel like a toy? I'm open to a change of opinion, but for now that's been my experience.

goranmoomin commented 4 years ago

@luckman212

I hate the memory use and slow startup time of Electron, but once they're warmed up, the experience isn't that bad (VSCode for example).

That's probably b.c. VSCode optimizes so much for great perf. Try... for example Slack or Messenger. It's terrible. Every time I type anything in Messenger the CPU perf of Messenger Helper.app soars up to 150% 😞

Can you name a single Marzipan app that doesn't look & feel like a toy?

Most Catalyst apps feels like a toy, that I agree, but at least most developers trying out Catalyst do try to implement proper drag & drop support / toolbars, etc... For example the Podcasts app bundled in macOS is pretty good considering it's not Cocoa. (Some panels still look like shit though.)

I've also heard LookUp is pretty great, but I've never used it myself.

zshbleaker commented 4 years ago

@pcr910303 Vectornator Pro. Still a toy compared to the giant competitors like Adobe Illustrator and OmniGraffle but much better than other Marzipan apps.