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Dr. M Theme Song... #222

Closed datahead8888 closed 8 years ago

datahead8888 commented 9 years ago

We ought to consider requesting a custom theme song for the Dr. M character. We can then request some remixes of it for some different points in the game (especially cinema scenes). This is another one of those items we will want to review carefully, since we want it to be iconic.

Themes can do a lot for a game . . . just think about the impact they had in the classic Star Wars movies.

This would probably NOT be the same song used on the title screen.

datahead8888 commented 9 years ago

@RedFT, do you think you might be able to further develop your "Revenge of the Mafia" song? We currently have it uploaded as revenge.ogg in github for the game.

Dr. M is our planned villain - a librarian who quotes Shakespeare as he travels but is also building a monster army for nefarious purposes.

If for any reason we don't end up using "Revenge of the Mafia" as a theme song for Dr. M, we could still have a "Dr. M's Revenge" song.

RedFT commented 9 years ago

I can try to recreate it. I'm currently trying to learn Renoise. I don't have a copy of Windows or OSX so I can't use FL Studio.

RedFT commented 9 years ago

I would have to recreate it because I don't have the project files anymore.

datahead8888 commented 9 years ago

I'm sorry to hear you lost them. If you're able to develop the song again, it would be appreciated.

What would you think about having musicians submit their project files (and have them saved in a drafts folder in github). This would make them "open source" and create a permanent backup.

RedFT commented 9 years ago

That would like that actually. I noticed there's already such a system in place. On Oct 31, 2014 9:00 PM, "datahead8888" notifications@github.com wrote:

I'm sorry to hear you lost them. If you're able to develop the song again, it would be appreciated.

What would you think about having musicians submit their project files (and have them saved in a drafts folder in github). This would make them "open source" and create a permanent backup.

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datahead8888 commented 9 years ago

As far as I know, this system exists for art through SVG files. These are used to generate .png files.

We'll want to run this by aakburns and jobromedia, too. I think it makes sense, though. Collaboration in editing music and backups of files needed to modify them would have a lot of advantages.

RedFT commented 9 years ago

The thing is, different DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations) produce different project files. If aakburns and I use different DAWs, we will have a hard time collaborating with eachother.

RedFT commented 9 years ago

We could work around this problem by using one DAW. But I'm not so sure anyone is willing to part with their DAWs.

In any case, I have a few project files that I'd like to backup already.

datahead8888 commented 9 years ago

I'd say that if we do this, we'd just back up whatever format you guys have. If you're using different audio software, you're obviously not going to be able to just port it. Something is better than nothing, though.

I don't suppose there is a "cross platform' audio composing format, then.

RedFT commented 9 years ago

Looks like there's something called 'open media format' On Oct 31, 2014 10:08 PM, "datahead8888" notifications@github.com wrote:

I'd say that if we do this, we'd just back up whatever format you guys have. If you're using different audio software, you're obviously not going to be able to just port it. Something is better than nothing, though.

I don't suppose there is a "cross platform' audio composing format, then.

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refi64 commented 8 years ago

What ever happened to this?

datahead8888 commented 8 years ago

The discussion went dead, and nothing was submitted. You're welcome to take a shot at it; you might try to come up with something thematic that can be remixed into other songs easily. Movies often reuse themes, and it would be cool if we did the same.

The title and credit themes are the ones we wanted to run a contest for. Once we get some budget questions answered, hopefully we can run a contest with prizes.

refi64 commented 8 years ago

@datahead8888 What exactly did you have in mind for the "style" of it? I was thinking something sort-of-sinister-sounding, but with some more lighter-ish parts to interrupt the intensity. Just to give the sound like, "This is a guy that's bad but kind of cool".

refi64 commented 8 years ago

Maybe with some more "grand-ish" sounds or something, for the Shakespeare part. :)

datahead8888 commented 8 years ago

Ideally, the music would correspond to components of his character, as you hinted:

Dr. M is a fan of Shakespeare and classical music
He is very intelligent - the music would ideally have a bit of complexity
Dr. M commands an army of monsters, with overwhelming power, suggesting a dramatic, cinematic orchestral component might need to be present
He is not pure evil -- to some extent he becomes over-obsessed and goes down the wrong path. Eventually, he joins Alex in order to fight a greater evil. The music might also look for a way to reflect this, alternating between sections of music that emphasize the sinister and good components.

@Quintus - if you have any thoughts on using the story as a guideline for this piece, feel free to chime in. It sounds like it would be a lot of fun to compose :)

datahead8888 commented 8 years ago

In my opinion, theme songs for dark sections of a game or villains can be very effective if they alternate between a dramatic, all powering section and a soft, thoughtful section. The contrast expresses a deep thought.

Quintus commented 8 years ago

The really evil villain as we plan it will be Lord Âzdhor. If we can have a different, and strikenly evil theme for him that makes him different from Dr. M. himself that would be cool. In contrast to Dr. M.'s theme it can be a rather sharp music, causing a disgustive effect. In the music for Dr. M., there should also swing some moment of thought, of doubt; a reminder of his personality that is not a black or white shape.

datahead8888 commented 8 years ago

Shall I create a task for the theme for Lord Âzdhor? Even Lord Âzdhor can't be pure evil, but he may effectively come close to it.

Quintus commented 8 years ago

Shall I create a task for the theme for Lord Âzdhor?

Probably a good idea.

refi64 commented 8 years ago

Added in https://github.com/Secretchronicles/TSC/commit/47aaa99f604eb1730a6923b253d923377b33a118.