New Secret Chronicles Icon...

[datahead8888]

The current desktoip icon has the letters "SMC" on it in the graphics. It needs to be changed to "TSC".

cc @DarkAceZ and @sydneyjd

[sydneyjd]

@datahead8888 I will do that, if i know what the original SMC one looks like, and what your expecting in the TSC remake.

[Quintus]

@sydneyjd Here you can view the old SMC icon in extra-large: https://github.com/Secretchronicles

Vale, Quintus

[sydneyjd]

Oh, ok. Will see what i can do. DOes it have to be SVG format? @Quintus @datahead8888 ?

[sydneyjd]

Also, what is TSC's font?

[sydneyjd]

Haha, i know gimp quite well, and inkscape looks a little intimidating. ;)

[Quintus]

Oes it have to be SVG format?

Yes.

Also, what is TSC's font?

No specific one currently. This is something for discussion, especially as it would be nice to use a consistent font in both the game, and on the website.

inkscape looks a little intimidating.

Inkscape basics are quite easy. Just try around a bit. Advanced usage is something really tough, though.

Vale, Quintus

[sydneyjd]

Ok, wel lthen, what font Should i use? Or what have been some that have been used before? I use sneakerhead BTN for my church, and i think that might fit. http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/btn/sneakerhead-btn/

[sydneyjd]

Here is what i have so far ( With a little help from Quintus ) @datahead8888 and everyone else, what do you think? I used the Sneakerhead_BTN font.

[datahead8888]

Nice! Leaving the Maryo image out for now is a good idea! Just be sure to use layers in case we need to experiment again down the line.

Should we include a gem in the picture, or do we want gems to be iconic (pun intended)?

[sydneyjd]

Good question. That might be a nice adition. What do you think @Quintus ? I will write up another one with a gem a min.

[datahead8888]

If you put the gem in its own layer in the SVG, we can add or remove it as needed anytime. @Luiji or @DarkAceZ - what do you think about the gem idea?

[sydneyjd]

Red or blue? And should it be right under the "TSC" logo?

[sydneyjd]

Also, is there a coin SVG @Quintus and @datahead8888 ? Ive searched through the whole /drafts directory and not found one. :s

[datahead8888]

Also, is there a coin SVG

We decided to replace coins with gems as part of our efforts to stop being a Mario clone. I'm not sure if the coins were completely removed from the drafts, but I suspect they were.

I would probably try putting the gem to the right side's center. We've have to see it to know how well that works, though.

[sydneyjd]

Oh, here is one with it in the center. I only had a .png to work with for the coin :s

[datahead8888]

Actually I meant the right's center, which would move it to the right a bit. This way the gem is not the biggest focus.

[sydneyjd]

Oh, ok, let me fix.

[sydneyjd]

[datahead8888]

Sorry, I meant even further right, above the horizontal center of the furball. I guess it's hard to put into words.

Neither way is wrong; it's just a possible design to consider.

[sydneyjd]

Ok. ;) Now it looks like he has it spinning on his head IMO :P

[datahead8888]

Now it looks like he has it spinning on his head IMO

Yeah, you have a good point there. The second from the last one you did is probably the best choice. We could see what everyone else thinks in the next day, too.

[Quintus]

Also, is there a coin SVG

What the...? I was convinced @Bugsbane added the jewel SVGs to the drafts/ folder. Skimming through the commit log it appears he didn’t. We need to get hold of them/him quickly then, we don’t want to have graphics in the game that miss the SVGs. @Bugsbane?

On the logo, I personally like the version with the jewel between Krush and Furball more.

Vale, Quintus

[sydneyjd]

@Bugsbane can we please get some throughput?

[sydneyjd]

What happened to Bugsbane????

[datahead8888]

What happened to Bugsbane????

Bugsbane has been out for a while. We're not sure when he might be back.

[sydneyjd]

@datahead8888 have you been able to locate a svg for the jewel?

[Quintus]

have you been able to locate a svg for the jewel?

@Bugsbane has created a Blender 3D model instead of an SVG. It is in the repository. Blender should be able to export this in any size, maybe even as an SVG, I don’t know.

Vale, Quintus

[sydneyjd]

Hmm, it apears that blender cannot export to SVG directly. I have posted the SVG of the icon and a .PNG of it on the forum. That is using the .PNG jewel. :s

[sydneyjd]

FYI the icon is uploaded here. http://forum.secretchronicles.de/topics/152 Im excited to see how it will look installed :)

[Quintus]

I think the icon is quite good now; if you want, you can create optimised versions with lesser elements, e.g. for the 16x16 pixels version. In any case: @sydneyjd, could you please submit your changes as a Pull Request? In that PR:

• Remove the old icons in tsc/extras/icons
• Add PNG versions of 16x16, 32x32, 48x48, 64x64, and 128x128 px of the icon (or optimised versions) to that folder
• Add the icon SVG to a new folder sydnjeyjd below the drafts/game hierarchy.

Vale, Quintus

[datahead8888]

@sydneyjd, could you please submit your changes as a Pull Request?

He posted it on the forums. He told me he would rather submit through the forums and have developers commit it through git. This is a good submission method for a lot of people.

@sydneyjd - when you get a chance, see if you can create versions in the other dimensions Quintus gave. You can submit them through the forums, too.

[Quintus]

This is a good submission method for a lot of people.

Depends. With a PR, he is in the commit log. If one of us developers commits it, his name will not show up there as a commiter. I don’t want people to be restricted to GitHub for contributions, though. Maybe as a compromise use $ git format-patch and submit the resulting commitfile? This is an easy way to create contributions without having to figure out how to get a Git repository up and running that is not on GitHub.

Vale, Quintus

[Quintus]

Addendum: With $ git format-patch you get a .patch file that is basically a regular .diff, just with Git commit identification included. With $ git am the file can be read in and is inserted into the history as a regular commit.

Vale, Quintus

[datahead8888]

Depends. With a PR, he is in the commit log. If one of us developers commits it, his name will not show up there as a commiter. I don’t want people to be restricted to GitHub for contributions, though.

git (not even with github) may seem a bit too technical for many people -- it's generally something programmers learn, and in many cases non programmers don't learn it. If someone such as Bugsbane feels comfortable using it and is willing to learn how, it certainly helps the project, but I think we should still be willing to accept contributions from people through the forums as was done in the old SMC. I think Sydney was a little weary of using it to change assets rather than just pull them.

I saw some of your commits had something in them that said you were doing it for Bugsbane. Might this be an option? I'm pretty tied up with school and, unfortunately, cannot work on getting this into github myself right now. In the long run, we really will need a larger number of contributors in order to keep one person from doing all the commits from the forums (which so far has almost been entirely you, Quintus).

As for the git format patch suggestion, @sydneyjd - do you think this is something you might feel good with?

[Quintus]

I saw some of your commits had something in them that said you were doing it for Bugsbane.

It is an option, yes, but it isn’t ideal, because the metadata is missing. The commit is assigned to me rather than to the person who deserves it. And I think you meant Aakburns rather than Bugsbane; I’ve commited a number of music pieces to the game for him.

but I think we should still be willing to accept contributions from people through the forums as was done in the old SMC

Agreed. But in this case I know sydney has already been using Git, so rephrasing his submission into something Git can understand shouldn’t be too difficult for him :-). But of course, I (or anyone else with write access) am continuing to commit assets to the repository for people who can’t. In this case it is required to name the person who create the asset, though, to prevent confusion when someone reads the commit log.

Vale, Quintus

[Quintus]

Hey -- I’ve just found that Git has actually taken care of this problem. Excerpt from git help commit:

   --author=<author>
     Override the commit author. Specify an explicit author using the standard A U Thor
     <author@example.com> format. Otherwise <author> is assumed to be a pattern and is used to
     search for an existing commit by that author (i.e. rev-list --all -i --author=<author>);
     the commit author is then copied from the first such commit found.

Great. So forget what I said a few minutes ago -- use that option when you commit for someone else. This makes the metadata correct.

Vale, Quintus

[datahead8888]

And I think you meant Aakburns rather than Bugsbane; I’ve commited a number of music pieces to the game for him.

No, I meant Bugsbane. See: f01687ae7456e8295782a99cd89e1a9629b4aa99

Agreed. But in this case I know sydney has already been using Git, so rephrasing his submission into something Git can understand shouldn’t be too difficult for him :-). But of course, I (or anyone else with write access) am continuing to commit assets to the repository for people who can’t. In this case it is required to name the person who create the asset, though, to prevent confusion when someone reads the commit log.

It's up to Sydney what he feels comfortable with; I just don't want to pressure him into doing it is all.

[Quintus]

No, I meant Bugsbane. See: f01687a

That commit is assigned to Bugsbane, as can be seen from how GitHub displays that commit’s page. What you see here is a special form of commit; it usually happens when you git cherry-pick a commit from someone else or merge some else’s branch. That commit has been originally created by that person, but technically, you re-add it, and this is also recorded. As a result, you get this double metadata that says who was the original author and who was the guy who re-commited that commit at a different place in the Git history.

It's up to Sydney what he feels comfortable with; I just don't want to pressure him into doing it is all.

Yes.

Vale, Quintus

[datahead8888]

This is a blocker because we can't release with an icon that says "SMC". It is already finished in the release branch, though.

[datahead8888]

...by the way, I noticed we need to update the icon (and game title) at https://github.com/Secretchronicles

[Quintus]

This is a blocker because we can't release with an icon that says "SMC". It is already finished in the release branch, though

And because it is finished in the release branch already, adding the blocker label here is nonsense.

Vale, Quintus