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More info: Most important ones to add first will be the ones that have not been
retired, and especially the default transfer syntaxes:
First, ultra-short first-line defaults list, then more details follow:
* JPEG Lossless, Non-Hierarch, 1st-Order Prediction (Process 14 [Selection Value
1]) -- Default for Lossless JPEG Image Compression
* JPEG 2000 Image Compression (Lossless Only)
* JPEG Baseline (Process 1) -- Default for Lossy JPEG 8 Bit
* JPEG Extended (Process 4) -- Default for Lossy JPEG 12 Bit
* JPIP and JPIP deflate
* RLE
Full details
(clipped from UID_dict)
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.50: JPEG Baseline (Process 1) -- Default Transfer Syntax for
Lossy JPEG 8 Bit Image Compression
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.51: JPEG Extended (Process 2 and 4) -- Default Transfer
Syntax for Lossy JPEG 12 Bit Image Compression (*Process 4 only*)
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.57: JPEG Lossless, Non-Hierarchical (Process 14)
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.70: JPEG Lossless, Non-Hierarchical, First-Order Prediction
(Process 14 [Selection Value 1]) -- *Default Transfer Syntax for Lossless* JPEG
Image
Compression
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.80: JPEG-LS Lossless Image Compression
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.81: JPEG-LS Lossy (Near-Lossless) Image Compression
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.90: JPEG 2000 Image Compression (Lossless Only)
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.91: JPEG 2000 Image Compression'
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.92: JPEG 2000 Part 2 Multi-component Image Compression
(Lossless Only)
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.93: JPEG 2000 Part 2 Multi-component Image Compression
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.94: JPIP Referenced
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.95: JPIP Referenced Deflate
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.100:MPEG2 Main Profile @ Main Level
* 1.2.840.10008.1.2.5': RLE Lossless
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 12 Oct 2008 at 12:17
Tried to find JPEG libraries to decode pixel data (tried using PIL and libjpeg
directly) -- can do it for lossy 8-bit but other images tried (lossless, lossy
12-bit) did not work in PIL.
An alternative is to incorporate C code, but am trying to keep to pure python or
installation of one other package like PIL. So at this point, the amount of work
involved is not worth it, and not core to what pydicom is meant to do.
Postponing
jpeg decompression for now.
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 15 Oct 2008 at 12:57
Reopening this issue. Medical image format FAQ has good info on libraries
available.
http://www.dclunie.com/medical-image-faq/html/part7.html#SourceJPEG
PVRG looks good (note link to PDF documentation in section linked to above,
else is
latex docs with the libraries themselves). Perhaps could create a separate
package to
wrap PVRG for python, have it as an optional install that pydicom could use if
available, maybe eventually merge it in (but would ideally like to keep pydicom
as
pure python package; much simpler!).
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 25 May 2009 at 2:26
Found pure python Huffman encoding/decoding (part of JPEG process) at
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/huffman%20encoder%20%26%20decoder/0.3. Has detailed
explanation [1] and walk through of optimizing the code [2]. But is GPL (on
PyPI
page), so inclusion in pydicom would limit the more-free MIT license.
His optimization didn't seem to look into Numpy at all, maybe there is more
there.
Maybe PVRG (very open license) could be "converted" to python (using Numpy in
an
optimized way to get reasonable speed).
[1] http://gpolo.ath.cx:81/misc/huffman/
[2] http://gpolo.ath.cx:81/texts/opc
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 26 May 2009 at 3:44
More research: code for DCT (also needed for JPEG I believe):
http://projects.scipy.org/scipy/ticket/733 -- proposed code for DCT using numpy
fft
http://whiter4bbit.blogspot.com/2008/11/dct-python-implementation-warning-code.h
tml -
- DCT using Numpy; quite short.
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 26 May 2009 at 4:08
Just a suggestion -- libjpeg is widely installed in Unix/Linux land and is
available
for Windows (although it's not installed by default). Why not make pydicom JPG
decompression conditional on libjpeg?
The same goes for PNG/libpng.
Original comment by NikitaTh...@gmail.com
on 5 Jan 2010 at 3:46
>Just a suggestion -- libjpeg is widely installed in Unix/Linux land and is
available
> for Windows (although it's not installed by default). Why not make pydicom JPG
>decompression conditional on libjpeg?
I'd be happy to use it if it would work. I did look at this a long time ago
(see
comment from Oct 15, 2008), and only got it to work for 8-bit lossy images
which
isn't very complete given that 12 or 16 bit images are common, and there are
many
lossless techniques. It's a long time ago that I looked at this, but IIRC there
were
some newsgroup discussions about many issues that other libraries such as dcmtk
and PVRG have had to deal with. I believe dcmtk started with libjpeg but had to
modify it and add in other codes for the various JPEG flavours allowed by
DICOM. It
may make more sense to adopt their C code if any.
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 6 Jan 2010 at 12:28
For JPEG, how about the Jasper library? I believe that OsiriX (Mac OS X DICOM
viewer) uses it, and it's licensed under the MIT license.
http://www.ece.uvic.ca/~mdadams/jasper/
Original comment by mike...@gmail.com
on 13 Sep 2010 at 2:02
OsiriX also uses OpenJPEG, which is BSD licensed. Not sure why the need for
both.
http://www.openjpeg.org/
Original comment by mike...@gmail.com
on 13 Sep 2010 at 2:25
Any updates on this? I'm currently using pydicom mixed with GDCM, looking to
help incorporate a purely python way to decompress JPG images within DICOM.
Original comment by neuros...@gmail.com
on 6 Mar 2014 at 10:54
No sorry, no update. I wonder, though ... IIRC I looked at GDCM once (or was
it dcmtk?) and i remember seeing that they handled compressed images by calling
a command line routine to convert to non-compressed in a temporary file, and
then load that.
It would be fairly easy to add a "hook" in pydicom to call something like dcmtk
to convert the file and then load it in. Would that be helpful?
And ... I'd be interested to know which specific compressed files (transfer
syntax) people are encountering in the real world.
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 7 Mar 2014 at 11:36
I've used dcmtk in conjunction with pydicom. I frequently run into JPEG-LS and
JPEG2000 variants. A downside to dmctk is that there is no free module for
encoding/decoding JPEG2000. That being said, OsiriX
(https://github.com/pixmeo/osirix) uses dcmtk and they have their own way of
handling JPEG2000 which you can look at in the source.
Original comment by ezaro...@gmail.com
on 7 Mar 2014 at 11:39
I'll try to have a look at OsiriX and see if there might be a way to build a C
extension. If so, I could see that as a separate pydicom library (to keep the
core pydicom pure python).
Just by way of explanation for anyone stumbling on this thread...my take on
this issue (as in issue 16) is that it seems like a large amount of work to try
to add decompression into pydicom (or related package), which has always had
the philosophy of being light and very easy to install. This is why I've
avoided it and recommend people pre-process compressed files with dcmtk or
others.
To me, if the pydicom user has to go through the work of a complex installation
with multiple dependencies, compiling C extensions, etc., then they might as
well do so with one of the existing packages that already have that all worked
out.
If there were a way to provide decompression in pure python or with minimal C,
then I think that would be more in the spirit of pydicom. My hope was to
perhaps handle a few of the most common compression formats that way.
I welcome anyone's thoughts on this subject.
Having said all that, on a more positive note: the various comments in this
issue do seem to be converging on OsiriX as a good source to model, if anyone
had the ambition to try to take this on. Realistically, it's not something I
can see getting around to anytime soon.
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 8 Mar 2014 at 12:32
Darcy, I'm using pydicom and GDCM for my prototype webservice dcmdb
(http://dcmdb.org), so you can see I'm attempting to capture as many transfer
syntaxes as possible (http://dcmdb.org/main/transfer_syntax). Using GDCM I
have not have a transfer syntax issue as of yet.
I really want a pure python way to get images out of DICOM files, I know Ruby
DICOM (http://dicom.rubyforge.org/) was able to accomplish that goal, so I'm
going to start really investigating solutions to this problem ... if you have
any documentation that would be helpful on this journey, please let me know.
Original comment by neuros...@gmail.com
on 9 Mar 2014 at 2:48
Eric,
I'm a bit confused. you're already using GDCM. are you using its Python
extension? if so, what is the reason for a "pure Python" implementation?
in any case, OpenJPEG is really the best library out there, so you would need
to do one of two things
- link to it, and then wrap an extension around it. which is what GDCM does.
this is not pure Python, but is still usable from Python.
- compile it for Python, similar to how kripken has compiled it to JS
(https://github.com/kripken/j2k.js). this would be pure Python
HTH
Original comment by mj...@nephosity.com
on 9 Mar 2014 at 6:50
First, thank you to everyone for the discussion. It's good to get these ideas
out there and see what we can come up with.
@neurosnap: I found this comment on ruby dicom:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.protocols.dicom/NMdlfkzpaII
in which the author says it relies on ImageMagick but it only handles a subset
of the JPEG variants. That comment is almost a year old though, so perhaps it
has changed?
@mjpan: do you know any more about how the conversion to JS? It mentions using
Emscripten, which I see is an LLVM to JS compiler. Is there a similar package
to convert for python? And is there any hope of any of this working at an
acceptable speed?
To all: I've toyed with some ideas on pure python implementations, but if you
start reading through libjpeg (libijg)code (which dcmtk's jpeg is based on) it
is incredibly intertwined. It is so heavily optimized for speed (and memory
use) that it is very difficult to follow or translate to another language. It
has been around a long time, so it comes from an era where speed and memory
were very important. Plus (IIRC) there were many workarounds for known poor
implementations and such. It would be very hard to replicate this in other
code; I think that is why no one (very few?) have succeeded in doing so.
Everywhere I looked, I just saw the same libijg code copied and pasted and
minimally modified. In terms of difficulty, Jpeg2000 may be a different
situation; I haven't really looked into those codes.
Original comment by darcymason@gmail.com
on 9 Mar 2014 at 9:57
Thanks for the response, ideally I would like a better mechanism to deploy my
server, something that would be easier to install besides GDCM, but I may be
out of luck. I'll investigate openJPEG.
Original comment by neuros...@gmail.com
on 10 Mar 2014 at 1:06
Darcy,
I'm sure that compiling OpenJPEG to pure Python can be done via LLVM, but I
don't think anyone has had the motivation to do so, as it's possible to run
C/C++ code in Python via an extension, as opposed to Javascript, which requires
JS code to run in the browser.
for anyone looking for Python -> OpenJPEG, I'd suggest checking out Glymur.
https://glymur.readthedocs.org/en/latest/introduction.html
although I can't imagine it being any easier than building the GDCM Python
extension-- CMake really makes things easy, especially as you go across
operation systems
Original comment by mj...@nephosity.com
on 10 Mar 2014 at 8:48
I just had a go at using Glymur to try to get pixel data out of a
1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.91: JPEG 2000 Image Compression'. I suspect that I am
going about the problems that I have encountered incorrectly. However I am
posting this comment here in case anyone can point out my mistake, or it is of
help to anyone else investigating Glymur.
From the initial error messages it seemed that there was no header data. This
seems consistent with, Part 5 of the DICOM standard section A.4.4 (p77)
http://medical.nema.org/Dicom/2011/11_05pu.pdf staes:
"The optional JP2 file format header shall NOT be included. "
So far I have found Annex I of ISO15444-1
http://www.jpeg.org/public/15444-1annexi.pdf. Hoping DICOM pixel data
contained a Contiguous Codestream, I attempted to create the relevant headings
such that it could be simply read by the Glymur command for opening JPEG2000
files.
import dicom
d =
dicom.read_file("/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dicom/testfiles/JPEG2000.dcm")
pd = d.PixelData
f = open("jp2000.jp2", "w+b")
f.write(struct.pack(">I4s4s", 12, "jP ", "\r\n\x87\n"))
f.write(struct.pack(">I4s4sI4s", 20, "ftyp", "jp2 ", 0, "jp2 "))
f.write(struct.pack(">I4s", 45, "jp2h"))
f.write(struct.pack(">I4sIIHBbBB", 22, "ihdr", d.Rows, d.Columns,
d.SamplesPerPixel, d.BitsAllocated - 1, 7, 1, 0))#Need to add 128
d.BitsAllocated - 1 if pixel data is signed
f.write(struct.pack(">I4sBBBI", 15, "colr", 1, 0, 0, 16))
f.write(struct.pack(">I4s", len(pd), "jp2c"))
f.write(pd)
f.flush()
f.close()
>>> jp2 = glymur.Jp2k("jp2000.jp2")
/home/martin/.virtualenvs/anat/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/glymur/jp2box.p
y:135: UserWarning: Unrecognized box (����) encountered.
warnings.warn(msg)
/home/martin/.virtualenvs/anat/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/glymur/jp2box.p
y:147: UserWarning: ���� box has incorrect box length (2822332288)
warnings.warn(msg)
>>> jp2.read()
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "/home/martin/.virtualenvs/anat/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/glymur/jp2k.py", line 672, in read
img = self._read_openjpeg(**kwargs)
File "/home/martin/.virtualenvs/anat/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/glymur/jp2k.py", line 713, in _read_openjpeg
self._subsampling_sanity_check()
File "/home/martin/.virtualenvs/anat/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/glymur/jp2k.py", line 684, in _subsampling_sanity_check
dxs = np.array(codestream.segment[1].xrsiz)
IndexError: list index out of range
Original comment by martin.s...@gmail.com
on 18 Mar 2014 at 12:40
If the image is showing a TransferSyntaxUID=1.2.840.10008.1.2.4.50
(http://www.dicomlibrary.com/dicom/transfer-syntax/) is there any way I can get
access to the raw data and just hand it to PIL to decode?
A naive call to: dicom.contrib.pydicom_PIL.show_PIL(dataset) did not work.
Original comment by agrothberg
on 2 Jul 2014 at 11:31
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
darcymason@gmail.com
on 8 Oct 2008 at 12:40