Switch to AWS SES for mail delivery

[kghbln]

I think it will be best to switch e-mail delivery to a mailing service rather than trying to maintain a mail server for the two wikis.

@JeroenDeDauw I think this will be save to do?

[JeroenDeDauw]

Is there a problem with the mail server?

[kghbln]

Try to make an educated guess. :)

[JeroenDeDauw]

How urgent is this then?

[kghbln]

I think this should be done this or next week.

[kghbln]

@JeroenDeDauw This completely ruined my day. Do I need to provide payment details to get this working? I really must deal with this after my return.

[JeroenDeDauw]

Missing some context here. Are you creating a new Amazon Web Services account for SMW stuff? Are you using the Professional Wiki account?

[JeroenDeDauw]

I'm currently not sure how to log into the SMW server btw. Too many credentials for Hetzner and their multiple places to login are not helping. URL to the place to log in plus the username would probably unconfuse me.

[kghbln]

Missing some context here. Are you creating a new Amazon Web Services account for SMW stuff? Are you using the Professional Wiki account?

No, I was thinking of using a new account for smw. However we as PW could sponsor this. If using PW I know what to do.

[JeroenDeDauw]

Lets use my private account instead. It is already setup. I'll send you the SMTP credentials later.

[JeroenDeDauw]

DNS stuff needs updating:

Domain Verification Record

_amazonses.semantic-mediawiki.org TXT 7u+nNHFnb3sJARN9wJ8DwFZBcLgvCjqhLz0XcGWFQHg=

DKIM Record Set nfxtv22c5irjcvcfiu4cx2bng3v2mm7t._domainkey.semantic-mediawiki.org CNAME nfxtv22c5irjcvcfiu4cx2bng3v2mm7t.dkim.amazonses.com

ab4tnyzz3ypiffdiqngc7fbb2wbijsgz._domainkey.semantic-mediawiki.org CNAME ab4tnyzz3ypiffdiqngc7fbb2wbijsgz.dkim.amazonses.com

ymg4k43pxj6465s7djmr72wubox2omiz._domainkey.semantic-mediawiki.org CNAME ymg4k43pxj6465s7djmr72wubox2omiz.dkim.amazonses.com

[JeroenDeDauw]

@kghbln I've send you the SMTP credentials

[kghbln]

SCHEISSE, SCHEISSE, SCHEISSE. WTBF.

@JeroenDeDauw s-mw.o is not controlled by OSDA. We need to switch to semanticmediawiki.org which is since I have no interest to follow up on s-mw.o. smw.o is good enough for me. Could you initiate verification for smw.o? This is so bloody exhausting for me. Really.

I got the credentials. I assume that I can reuse them for smw.o

[mkroetzsch]

I am afraid I cannot extract from the posts what this thread is about, nor why Karsten is loosing his composure over it. But if there is any problem related to the domain registry of semantic-mediawiki.org, I might be able to help.

[kghbln]

This is about making e-mail delivery more reliable. In the meantime gmail rejects e-mails from the wiki prior to delivery, i.e. the recipient receives nothing. Unfortunately a lot of people use gmail for whatever reason I yet fail to grasp. Anyways Amazon SES provides a mail delievery service which allows sending e-mails without the hassle of maintaining a mail server. To verify that we control the domain we need to add DNS records.

This is an example how the result looks in a DNS record for e.g. example.com:

Jeroen posted the data to be added in his post.

[JeroenDeDauw]

@mkroetzsch can you add these 4 DNS records for semantic-mediawiki.org? If not we can set up emails via semanticmediawiki.org, though that is not quite as nice.

[mkroetzsch]

Ok, I can look into this. Will this affect the working of any email addresses of the form "...@semantic-mediawiki.org" that are currently in use? I now have United Domains forward many such emails (including for my own account).

[JeroenDeDauw]

This won't effect existing email addresses. These DNS records just verify that we are not random spammers using semantic-mediawiki.org addresses as sender, and that we instead control the domain.

[kghbln]

@JeroenDeDauw It will be great if we could also do this for smw.o to have an alternative.

[JeroenDeDauw]

_amazonses.semanticmediawiki.org TXT M9lbcgv9861m8bxQ8Kxr2rswZwHopE0eDx2hYqg14Qo=

rwvetgqmpxkm63edaxer6iqb2rxz7c3b._domainkey.semanticmediawiki.org CNAME rwvetgqmpxkm63edaxer6iqb2rxz7c3b.dkim.amazonses.com

mjodykbdy6tesbijqa7rjurdnve3kg3h._domainkey.semanticmediawiki.org CNAME mjodykbdy6tesbijqa7rjurdnve3kg3h.dkim.amazonses.com

qso32z7eozrzqyzrwmm74r5ulgyxvsmx._domainkey.semanticmediawiki.org CNAME qso32z7eozrzqyzrwmm74r5ulgyxvsmx.dkim.amazonses.com

[kghbln]

@JeroenDeDauw Thanks a lot. Added the following:

mjodykbdy6tesbijqa7rjurdnve3kg3h._domainkey   300 IN CNAME   mjodykbdy6tesbijqa7rjurdnve3kg3h.dkim.amazonses.com
qso32z7eozrzqyzrwmm74r5ulgyxvsmx._domainkey   300 IN CNAME   qso32z7eozrzqyzrwmm74r5ulgyxvsmx.dkim.amazonses.com
rwvetgqmpxkm63edaxer6iqb2rxz7c3b._domainkey   300 IN CNAME   rwvetgqmpxkm63edaxer6iqb2rxz7c3b.dkim.amazonses.com
_amazonses           300 IN TXT     "M9lbcgv9861m8bxQ8Kxr2rswZwHopE0eDx2hYqg14Qo="

Note the quotes added tot th TXT entry which is required by syntax. Without the entry will fail. Also added 300 as TTL for the moment. Can be removed the next days.

It will be nice if you could report back fluff - hopefully.

[kghbln]

Obviously I have to edit smw.o and not osda.o :|

[kghbln]

Switched to AWS SES with @semanticmediawiki.org. Keeping this open for @semantic-mediawiki.org

[JeroenDeDauw]

@mkroetzsch so what is left here is adding these 4 DNS records to semantic-mediawiki.org. If you don't have time to manage the domain maybe you can share credentials? (keybase: https://keybase.io/jeroendedauw)

[kghbln]

semanticmediawiki.org as sender of e-mails is good enough for me. Once semantic-mediawiki.org is set up I can switch.