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Warrior's not generating rage auto-attack into absorb effects. #333

Open henhouse opened 7 years ago

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original report by Anonymous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFkSidbQu2o&feature=youtu.be&t=29m8s

This is retail footage from vanilla, you can clearly see rage gained through his white swing at approx 29:14. This mechanic exists on retail to date, and was never changed or removed to my knowledge and there are no patch notes that I've seen in vanilla or tbc to argue this point.

The fact that this bug still exists after this much time is extremely painful as a warrior, it makes warriors very gimped versus absorb-based teams.

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Darken_Ral (Bitbucket: 557058:31e8645c-27f9-45cb-b8e2-a7b9b61d07dc, ).

Attacks which damage a shield (such as [Power Word: Shield]) but not the opponent themselves do not generate rage.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Rage&oldid=1433823

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Anonymous.

Yeah, find the patch that this was changed in, because as previously stated with linked retail proof, warriors generate rage through absorbs in vanilla and TBC. Unless you're calling retail proof wrong? The link you provided is to a modern version of the game, so it's invalid as proofs for a legacy patch like 2.4.

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Darken_Ral (Bitbucket: 557058:31e8645c-27f9-45cb-b8e2-a7b9b61d07dc, ).

You're inattentive

Revision as of 18:25, 27 June 2008

which is patch 2.4.3. It's pretty basic thing in the game, absorb = no rage.

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Darken_Ral (Bitbucket: 557058:31e8645c-27f9-45cb-b8e2-a7b9b61d07dc, ).

And your video doesn't prove anything. There are 2 dots on the warrior and there might be reflective shield also (i don't even know if it was in vanila) + we can't see the dmg taken coz it's turned off + it's vanila which is not a proof for 2.4.3. I already told once, different patches can change game alot (like patch 2.4 was with it's haste-gcd change) but different expansions are pretty much different game.

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Anonymous.

"Don't even know if it's vanilla"

It's pretty blatant you don't understand how warriors work, and you must not have a very firm grasp of information on the game whatsoever if you think a Laintime video is anything but vanilla, especially considering his gear, his enemies gear, his spells, the fighting environments, the fact everyone is level 60,the lack of an experience bar...But hey, I'm the inattentive one right? The dot hits him at 29:1x and generates 2 rage, he then white swings against the priests shield, takes 0 damage (no reflective shield) and generates 10 rage. (Reflective shield wouldn't cause damage enough to generate that much rage.)

"Revision as of 18:25, 27 June 2008

which is patch 2.4.3. It's pretty basic thing in the game, absorb = no rage."

Except that revision is in line with the wrath beta.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Rage&direction=prev&oldid=1415476

Here's an earlier revision that has no mention of the shield change, oh but, but, its in the same month. (Reason being, all of the 'revisions' aren't revisions, they're all the same page with no changes made whatsoever save for the MAJOR changes between expacs or major patches. Plus, it's not wowwiki. Gamepedia is a joke) I literally went back countless revisions and the "absorb" line just appears for no reason around patch 2.1/2.2, find me the patch notes to reflect this change or it's not valid.

This change was made in the Wotlk Alpha/Beta and wasn't applied to live servers until 3.0 in the energy/rage revamp that was brought about.

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Darken_Ral (Bitbucket: 557058:31e8645c-27f9-45cb-b8e2-a7b9b61d07dc, ).

You're inattentive, again. I never said that your video is not vanila. I said

there might be reflective shield also (i don't even know if it was in vanila)

Can't see where i said "Don't even know if it's vanilla" in this quote.

Except that revision is in line with the wrath beta.

You really think someone actually bring info from wrath beta into live version of wowwiki 4 month before 3.0.2? Beta info never goes into the wiki coz Blizzard sometimes make changes after testing game but before official release of the patch.

Here's an earlier revision that has no mention of the shield change, oh but, but, its in the same month.

Because that topic was rewrited and more info added? Okay, here, have more:

Warriors have an empty pool of Rage until they deal damage with white damage or receive damage, at which point their rage pool slowly fills. This makes fighting classes with aura shields such as [Power Word: Shield] difficult, since Warriors receive no white damage rage unless they actually deal damage to their target.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Warrior&oldid=1384842

Be very attentive here, Revision as of 21:04, 29 May 2008 which is patch 2.4.2, WotlK beta doesn't exist yet.

find me a PATCH NOTE

I'm not going to find you anything, especially in patch notes. There are million of things that were changed and never mentioned in patch notes. It's you're trying to prove something so you should find better proof than vanila video where you can't even see incoming dmg. If you want to prove anything with a video than get a video at least from TBC (preferably patch 2.3+) where you can actually see either combat log or floating combat text and ofc not chineese coz none knows if it even was absorb or dodge or anythin else.

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Darken_Ral (Bitbucket: 557058:31e8645c-27f9-45cb-b8e2-a7b9b61d07dc, ).

Plus, it's not wowwiki. Gamepedia is a joke

If you don't know history behind wowwiki than you should not talk about it. Old wowwiki (the one which existed ~9 years ago) were split into two because the very first owner of wowwiki had some dispute with the "new co-owner". IIRC the old owner made his on gamepedia, while the new one made his on wikia engine. Before the split it was just wowwiki.com so both are not "wowwiki". That also happened much later than TBC and revisions for the TBC are the same as on wikia pages (even the timestamps are the same coz they both just copied that old database).

P.S.: you don't even understand how wikia engine works. Revision means that someone made any changes to the topic and saved it. The reason why we refer to this revisions is because you can see the date when those changes done (to know which patch it was on retail during that time).

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Anonymous.

You don't have any brain. I'm done discussing this with you. You legitimately think that saying "I dont even know if its vanilla" isn't saying "I dont even know if its vanilla"

You're fucking braindead bro, you know nothing, you didn't play in vanilla or tbc as warrior, you have no experience under which to formulate opinions or to try to state facts you don't understand, you're referencing non-official material. Refer to official fucking material you cunt. And stop using words you don't understand, because inattentive doesn't work the way you use it. Learn english.

henhouse commented 7 years ago

Original comment by Darken_Ral (Bitbucket: 557058:31e8645c-27f9-45cb-b8e2-a7b9b61d07dc, ).

so amd FeelsBadMan