Feature request - redesign browse members as whole

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @poeticjustice on March 20, 2017 14:52

Hi Guys over this last past month if raised a few tickets regards to profile questions and browse members.

There was one particular that i raised about browse members, after discovering that, the browse members does not communicate with the actual profile questions people put on their profile, infact a completely new database is created purely for browse members.

Which contradicts an old email/response that i had from SE ages ago.

where i questioned why can you not multi-select a single select question. Example ethnicity. could have upto 10 entries for single select, but on browse members you can only single select search - Which is just aweful, example dating site you may like Caucasians and Indians. But you have to conduct single searches.

SE said it couldnt be done , you couldnt have multiselect on browse if using single select box for profile questions, strang considering ive already PROVED that browse members is its own database, and its not using the profile fields database..

So why SE said it couldnt be done, PHPFOX have done it, Oxwall have done it, Phpdolphin, moosocial, buddypress, even socibd....... but not SE.

below is a image example at the bottom just after the quoted section, even in OXwall back end, aand on signup a single checkbox can only be selected on signup, but on browse member and search, you can multiselect it.

Here is what i said

However yes Social engine NEEDS profile questions and type of methods updating. Same with browse members.

They seem to have never changed since when SE was first made.

Also browse members only reflects the questions.

Example say on signup, You have a single select option of

For example Location,

On signup a members selects London

On browse members all you have is single select option, but being as your browsing the members, you should be able to multi select what your searching for on ALL questions.

So dumb you chose on sign up, but because the question was single select, it makes the browsing option single select too, which is silly

Example being, your looking for someone in London, South East (which is surrounding area), and south west.

In browse members your forced to search only one location at a time, then research the next then the next. This was example so don't say "but you can search miles of a location radius"

Point is the questions to browsing are horrid.

To be able to use multi select search you have to make the question on signup multi select, purely so the search can be multi selectable, which is annoying when on signup as you may only want then to select one option.

Great example of this is GENDER

You may have Male, Female and TransGender

Now on signup you will want users to ONLY select one, so its single select, you dont want a male selecting he is female too.

User on browse members , a user may like Males and Females but not Transgenders.

But the user can't search Male and Female, that user is force to search either male first, then female second, they simply can't select Male and Female......

Which is ridiculous

Here is a quote and reply from @Khushboo016

Hi @poeticjustice,

Regarding "This is an enhancement request that i raised ages ago, over a year ago directly": Thanks for your good suggestions regarding improvement of Profile questions of Multi Select Box and Multi-Checkbox type. We have added this suggestion at our end for internal team discussion, the user-interface can be enhanced by the use of Combo-boxes for such type of questions which can have multiple answers.

Regarding "To be able to use multi select search you have to make the question on signup multi selec": If you create a Profile Question of type "Multi Select Box" then on the Members Browse page, the search filer would also be of the type multi-select. It is not possible to have a search filter of type multi-select if you create a profile question of type "Single Select Box".

Thanks & Regards!

Not possible yet PHPFOX have done it, Oxwall have done it, Phpdolphin, moosocial, buddypress, even socibd....... but not SE.

Maybe ask @DonnaScriptTechs since she use to work for them ;)

Browse members in 2017 should, and i really mean should have the ability to multi-check or multiselect, questions that were single select on signup.............. SE is soooo behind on this,

Just to give the ability to multi-select search in browes members, you have to give a multi-select signup question, when really you want people to ONLY select one on signup, not ability to select more......

When you see others do it, SE cant say its not possible!!!!!

Copied from original issue: SocialEngine/phpv4-issues#613

[DonnaScriptTechs]

Is this a duplicate of the other request you mentioned? If so, I believe it was being looked at.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @poeticjustice on March 20, 2017 18:17

No not duplicate at all.

This is feature request, regards to being able to multi-select in browse members of Profile questions that were set up as single check or single select.

Something phpfox and oxwall etc have ie Single select on profile signup = multi-select on browse members multi-select on signup = multi-select on browse members

But SE only mimics the question ie Single select on profile signup = single select on browse members multi-select on signup = multi-select on browse members

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @Elshara on March 21, 2017 16:36

This issue is a database configuration gone wrong. Discussed at length in issue 612.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @angelflo on April 24, 2017 7:3

I'm totally agree with you !! this functionnality is really important for all community website . SE team need to update their product if they don't want to loose some customer for their competitor. I currently need to create a commnunity website for one of my customer and I need to choose a script to start the project. Without this functionnality, I'll need to buy phpfox solution.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @poeticjustice on April 24, 2017 11:21

Tbh @angelflo

I don't think this will ever be addressed or implemented Social Engine have been great to fix the issues I found, @DonnaScriptTechs @Khushboo016 have been great

But I think the profile questions files are truely so old, that they are scared to completely change them, redesign and implement better functions.

I have raised this, because it's truely needed. I really hate how SE mimics the question in browse members.

PHPfox can do it perfectly, single select option on signup, and ability to multiselect combo boxes on browse members.

It caused me to set up such stupid questions using multiselect (purely so users can search multipul choices, when only one question is needed on signup)

Example ethnicity, only want users signing up to choose one

But in browse members I want to search a few in one hit. If I used single select, then it's impossible for me to search, say for example 5 of 8 ethnicities, unless I set up as multi select.

But doing so, some users have selected all the choices, when they are Caucasian.

Really is annoying I And also multi check and multi select are old.

I have asked many times to incorporate a tag system Such as selectize, which all new websites use, its cleaner and looks nicer. Even suggested we crowd fund and as clients we pay SE to implement, but nothing :( http://selectize.github.io/selectize.js/

Was hoping with @RaymondBenc joining SE, that we would see some good that phfox has. SE is by far superior and the custom devs are way better.

But the first point of signup is was our visitors see, so they need a whole redesign.

Placeholders, font awesome support so we can give each question a font awesome icon. Location support with google maps api, selectize tags, ability to add questions like web links but, admin has option to set the before URL so that it's basically setting up a specific question... so we can add website question and set the prelink as http Instagram .com and then people just add the usernames

Update to have an addition tick box on single select questions, that says "makes this multiselect search in browse members "

Also profile signup NEEDS document upload, some sites require driving licence, passports and documents. Having a separate section to handle document uploads is ridiculous as the drop off rate of users going to another stage to provide is 50 50.

I have so many good ideas and would gladly crowd fund to get SE to do them.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @Elshara on April 25, 2017 7:30

I'm curious. @AlexTr @andrewboon What's a good html5 based solution for form field type input replacing multi-select? How would it be implemented for best use for join form or profile questions? Thing is, it's kind of needed to be able to show based on search results spanning multiple profile tables. Such as if you multi-select items, and then use such multiple selections as separate search queries, but in one search results window. Can this be done, in your opinion?

On 24/04/2017, Daniel notifications@github.com wrote:

Tbh @angelflo

I don't think this will ever be addressed or implemented Social Engine have been great to fix the issues I found, @DonnaScriptTechs @Khushboo016 have been great

But I think the profile questions files are truely so old, that they are scared to completely change them, redesign and implement better functions.

I have raised this, because it's truely needed. I really hate how SE mimics the question in browse members.

PHPfox can do it perfectly, single select option on signup, and ability to multiselect combo boxes on browse members.

It caused me to set up such stupid questions using multiselect (purely so users can search multipul choices, when only one question is needed on signup)

Example ethnicity, only want users signing up to choose one

But in browse members I want to search a few in one hit. If I used single select, then it's impossible for me to search, say for example 5 of 8 ethnicities, unless I set up as multi select.

But doing so, some users have selected all the choices, when they are Caucasian.

Really is annoying I And also multi check and multi select are old.

I have asked many times to incorporate a tag system Such as selectize, which all new websites use, its cleaner and looks nicer. Even suggested we crowd fund and as clients we pay SE to implement, but nothing :( http://selectize.github.io/selectize.js/

Was hoping with @RaymondBenc joining SE, that we would see some good that phfox has. SE is by far superior and the custom devs are way better.

But the first point of signup is was our visitors see, so they need a whole redesign.

Placeholders, font awesome support so we can give each question a font awesome icon. Location support with google maps api, selectize tags, ability to add questions like web links but, admin has option to set the before URL so that it's basically setting up a specific question... so we can add website question and set the prelink as http Instagram .com and then people just add the usernames

Update to have an addition tick box on single select questions, that says "makes this multiselect search in browse members "

Also profile signup NEEDS document upload, some sites require driving licence, passports and documents. Having a separate section to handle document uploads is ridiculous as the drop off rate of users going to another stage to provide is 50 50.

I have so many good ideas and would gladly crowd fund to get SE to do them.

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[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @RaymondBenc on April 25, 2017 8:2

I'll be looking into the technicals of this request and will factor in what version we can have this developed by. I'll circle back with an update once I've looked over the code base for this section.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @poeticjustice on April 27, 2017 0:9

Hi @RaymondBenc

I have heard great things about you from @DonnaScriptTechs You sound like a legend from phpfox and now with SE.

Im hoping having insight with PHPFox, you will take the great aspects from that to SE.

Id love to hear back, I really hope its an area that can be addressed, and maybe your that man to do it. If I had the tech knowledge to do it, Id demand a job at SE and would do it ha

This area hasn't been touched since 2012, when I first purchased with a friend. May have been SE3 then, but i believe its not been touched since SE first released. I apologise putting this here, but Im not using the social engine oncommunity for topics, engagement for us paid SE people and SE staff, is very low.

Now 2017

• We still have an AIM specific question..... Aim died in 2009 and was rated terribly for security, Its bad that i remember ICQ more than Aim.

• Yet instagram hasnt got a specific profile question..... which I made a tutorial on how to make #565 Its so simple, but for people looking to buy SE now as a new client, can you imagine installing, seeing twitter facebook and AIM, and not Instagram or even snapchat You will be searching AIM to understand what the heck it is.

On profiles it would be good to display icons for social links like these, rather than a text link

• single select answers for profiles, can only be searched 1 by 1. This is fine if you have single select between 2 answers. because if you want to see all, you dont narrow it down. But if you have single select, with choice of 3 or more, when browsing members, its a nightmare, you have to conduct endless searches, yet PHPFOX and every other platform can do it.

• Checkboxs all fall vertically and not responsive, so if you have 20 checkboxs for a question, you have a long vertical list 1 by 1, where as all over sites sit nicely side by side and are responsive.

• Multiselect is old as, in todays generation, they are not use to this "hold cntrl and select one by one, but dont release and click as you will lose your selection" The standard for this is http://selectize.github.io/selectize.js/ I havent seen a site for ages using multiselect about from my site running SE.

• Locations profile field needs to be linked to google maps

• http://selectize.github.io/selectize.js/ this needs to be implemented to profile signup, browse members and profiles info asap really.

• Widget for profile fields needs to be addressed. I have over 60 signup questions, only of which 10 are visable to members on their profles. However when a user views their own profile they see everything, but it looks nasty because they see a tool tip per hidden field, so in the end you get a long list and all that stands out is ... this is hidden repeated 50 times.............. if its hidden, dont show it at all on the widget...... visitors hate it and always question, saying its hidden but i see it.

• fontawesome icons for each question shown only on signup and profile fields widget like in #595

• This one really grinds my gears, 2017 and a required field asterisk is not shown, the single one uniform symbol everyone understands, that a field is required!!!! yet they skip loads of questions to discover they had to fill in after they hit save.............. mentally this causes people to rush and make up answers just to finish the form.... where as initially seeing it, true data inputted. Also prevents drops offs, because they know where they went wrong.

• Placeholders, placeholders with the field box.

• multi line textbox, If question was ... what do you enjoy, you type Juggling, Swimming, Horses.....when searching in browse members, if you use it to search them terms seperatly its displayed...... but type Horses, Swimming, Juggling and you get nothing.......... hence once again why http://selectize.github.io/selectize.js/ should be built in, then each type thing will be a tag, and pulls seaches based on that tag as a combo box

• Ability to have a search from and to section. Float does trick but only works with numbers and decimals You need ability for single select answers to be allowed to be searched from a point to another point, basing its order how you arrange the answers. Example height single select question 5ft 5.1ft 5.2ft 6ft etc thats your order so in browse members the height question shows all entries and i can select a from and end search point, just like age!

• Document uploader Checking the identity of people is needed when signing people up, I raised a git how it should be, this is really important at signup stage, especially if you have a niche network. we are in a land of catfishes and those going by fake aliases. #710

• html support is needed in profile questions description, so if they dont understand a question, they click button to see a popup video, or redirect link etc

Ask any 3rd party dev and the one are they will never work on, is profile signup, and browse members functions to behave how i mentioned. They will not touch it.

once again to quote SE, " It is not possible to have a search filter of type multi-select if you create a profile question of type "Single Select Box"

Yet as you know @RaymondBenc PHPFOX have done it, Oxwall have done it, Phpdolphin, moosocial, buddypress, even socibd....... but not SE

You and @DonnaScriptTechs are my only hope........ and ive stored all the above info into my R2 Unit

Last note Id gladly send $100 and im sure others here would too, for these upto date changes to be made............... this area is litrally the front of the shop for joining a community, its the display shelf that sets out what to potentially expect.

and @Elshara , I noticed you tagged two boonex dolphin devs, Im pretty sure they have all the features mentioned

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @angelflo on April 27, 2017 4:57

+1 to implement the @poeticjustice suggestions. Tanks to you @poeticjustice , you have a very good analyse of the most important fetaures needed for a community website in 2017. All your suggestion are really relevant. Hope that @RaymondBenc and @DonnaScriptTechs can give a roadmap for this and can impletent these functionnalities in priority.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @JonSimon93 on April 27, 2017 15:29

@poeticjustice can you go work for Social E please.

Im so annoyed Social E couldnt give me info on when a bug would be fixed that you raised, as a result I went and purchased a different script, It had best profile signup section and browse members compared to Social E.

But the script is just horrible..... then days later Social E release 4.9.1 with the fix to a bug you raised.

Yet they wouldnt tell me it was going to be fixed, just said in future......... I wanted Social E, but this was cliffhanger for me, and I repeatedly asked can I wait for 4.9 release and they honor the discount coupon,...... they ignored my emails.

SE would have had money in their bank, and I would have been happy to wait if they said "we are fixing it now, and yes we will honor the discount still"

Oh wellllllllllll i wasted money on another script that is horrible, If i can get a refund I will get SE, providing they give me a discounted rate as to when I raised countless emails.

But I agree with everything raised here, My site is planning to be aimed at adult and dating................ the profile section has never changed since SE3 and i know this as an old SE3 user.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

Hi @JonSimon93 ,

We can't post when a release will come before we have the set date. At the times you asked, we were still working on the issues as you asked in 4.9.0. This fix was done for 4.9.1 which was a few weeks after the 4.9.0 release. We couldn't get it fixed in time for the 4.9.0 release but I did answer in that other bug report that we were fixing it. No emails were ignored as all were answered. However, it is possible your emails didn't reach our support if you got no answer. Please contact us again via our contact form or via support@socialengine.com and we'll address your questions.

For this particular request, we are already looking at it per Ray.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @angelflo on April 27, 2017 16:16

Hi @JonSimon93 ,

Just for info, I wait improvement on the SE browse member to buy their script. In the version 4.9.1 this is only bug fix, but no implementation of the features discuss in this thread.

For me, the most important feature to implement in first is the possibility to have single choice field in question (for signup and edit profile) and multiple answer choice for this question in the search form (browse member page). Without this it's impossible to creeate a community website where members can find other people by affinity, interest, etc ...

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @JonSimon93 on April 27, 2017 16:17

Ill message soon, Im trying to dispute a refund of another script that i purchased without thinkin it throuh properly, because I felt I wasnt getting an answer.

I should have ben more paitient like @Elshara and @poeticjustice said, but i assumed it be a year away.

I only came back to gitub as Poetic referenced my idea in a post that was closed recently for him #709 and my orignal post was #595 but i heard no more about it.

I always love ideas from @Elshara and @poeticjustice , them two seemed so clued up, Id imagine they have good niche communities.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @JonSimon93 on April 27, 2017 16:22

@angelflo Im refering to this bug which @poeticjustice did a big inspection into.

It was a bug i experienced years ago with a friend, and it killed our site, we couldnt work it out, then Poetic layed it out with diagrams and then it was fixed. https://github.com/SocialEngine/phpv4-issues/issues/592 but the fix came week after release of 4.9 with 4.9.1 And I wanted to buy SE when they did the 4.9 pre release offer

And exactly the single select signup, but multiselect search is sooooo important, Iveseen Poetic address it multipul times in dif threads, so doubt its possible

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @poeticjustice on April 27, 2017 16:28

@angelflo I'm so glad someone else see's this, I've been banging on about profile signup and browse members for ages, Do you agree it's literally the most important thing.

I was forced to make the most ugliest signup form once, I have ethnicity as a question, but had to set as multi select, just so it could be searched in browse members......... but only wanted people to choose one answer, as a result people chose multiple items just to be seen more in all searches.... was annoying

[DonnaScriptTechs]

Hi @JonSimon93 , sounds good regarding emailing us soon. If you still don't get an answer, please get in touch with me at my https://forum.scripttechs.com , https://forum.scripttechs.com/messages/add/data66 right there, so that I can make sure you're taken care of. I'm curious as to which script it was too (the one Ray and I used to work for or something else). Some will refund but that one doesn't.

Regarding this improvement though, we'll see what can be done. We need to try to keep this issue on track so that when Ray comes back to it, he doesn't have to look through a lot of comments.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @gsf00001 on April 27, 2017 16:33

(Donna: after I began my comment yours posted with suggestion to keep this on track w/o lots of comments - I believe the below is on track).

My suggestion is to be sure this is flexible and doesn't lock others into a different mold on this multi-select.

Multi-Select (conceptually) can be used in an 'and' or 'or' situation, depending on the needs of the ADMIN. This is why I had some Search widgets customized to meet all or any criteria. This allows the actual User to decide how narrow or broad their search is. My concern was the possibility of keeping things 'on track' for this issue may gain required functionality for some, but remove functionality for others.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @JonSimon93 on April 27, 2017 16:36

@DonnaScriptTechs I went halfs with my friend on phpfox.

It looked nicer, I loved the default images with initials, and its browsing of members was better single select answer, and seemed to do multi search, but it was awful to use, i really didnt like it.

wen buying they say "License comes with a Free 14 day full version trial" yet this means nothing when you buy it as they wont refund

[DonnaScriptTechs]

@gsf00001 the above link to that js search showed a "tag" sort of search. http://selectize.github.io/selectize.js/ which should work for any needs (narrow or broad search). However, jq (edited typo) doesn't play nicely with moo so we need to look at options or make our own. Does that look like something that would work for your needs, that sort of a search feature?

@JonSimon93 hopefully it'll work out for you to get a refund. I know that script very well.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @poeticjustice on April 27, 2017 16:51

@gsf00001 multiselect can stay as it is, SE can can leave it alone for all i care, its nasty and old, What i have suggested is basically more default specific profile questions,

Tags being one of them, similar to multiselect but tags. tags that appear inline of the search field they are selected, which can be deleted by reclicking them. or it places the tags next to the search button of browse members with also a clear all tags button.

Having single select question should have an option in the back end when setting up the question A Tick box that says "make this single select question a multiple select within browse members?"

The new thing for multi select type search is Tags and Also this new one I've seen, best way to explain is on off switch buttons but to every potential answer.

Its literally just making new specific profile questions.

For a single select question, it could simply offer my settings in its set up like

Single select

• name
• description
• placeholder (requested feature)
• font awesome icon (requested feature)
• make searchable on a multi level on browse members, if unticked this search will be only single select search (requested feature)
• make searchable as a from to end point search - ticking this will disable being a single select search or being a multi search only on browse members, the order of answers determines the from and end point search values - eg Height (requested feature)

@DonnaScriptTechs i thought mootools was js or a collection of js?

[DonnaScriptTechs]

@poeticjustice typo. I mean jq (jquery)

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @gsf00001 on April 27, 2017 17:1

@poeticjustice Great! Yes, the last 2 items you included are what I wanted to be sure SE realizes and would implement - provides lots of flexibility (not quite as much as I'd like, since some things should still be up to the User at the point of search), but it at least alleviates my fears :) Thanks for the helpful extra details.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @poeticjustice on April 27, 2017 17:5

Awesome @gsf00001 ............. so when is SE hiring me as a think tank lol Oh yes JQ, the selectorize was just an example that i found to best describe it all, May be able to be done using other methods maybe, we shall see for the legend @RaymondBenc

Been a good productive afternoon

[DonnaScriptTechs]

From @Elshara on April 29, 2017 14:0

The way I see it, we have 3 options.

1. Member search belonging to content they share inside as well as outside of their profile.
2. Tags, specifically designed for member search feature.
3. Profile questions, designed for integration of both search and category based mapping. We need to simplify profile questions regardless, to ensure 5 types of question requirement exist.
4. Text input. Decide whether it is single, or multiple line, but only one should be there.
5. Multiple selection. It doesn't matter if you have only one answer for people to choose from, as long as you can add or remove the ability to select how ever many items out of what ever is actually possible through its implementation can be done based on requirements.
6. Dependency. Integration with profile dependency allows different sub questions to be associated with it. Categories, requirements, custom fields and default selections are possible here based on initial input.
7. HTML embeds. Profiles need the ability to have custom script implementation, so you are able to place content there of your own choosing. The content you place may be anything from personal like buttons of social media pages, to custom information and scripts or counters. The important thing is, the ability exists.
8. Custom CSS. Styles are important, and should probably be contained within an html section, however it would be nice to provide such ability for people to highlight important answers. All field types must be interdependent, yet have the ability to edit 10 things associated with them for integration purposes.
9. Member privacy. Giving users the ability to keep information private, or public, based on who views their profile.
10. Name and description of the question. Allow site admins to optionally have such.
11. Member tags for each answer. This way members can tag their answers, to appear in search results, if their answer is a search string, they can lead people to their profile using them in addition to default answers.
12. Custom error messages. For dependency based fields, it would be ideal to set up custom error messages if the question isn't answered according to the correct sequence.
13. Custom style. To optionally highlight members answers, or to show or hide others by default.
14. Profile groups. To allow certain questions to be contained within a group. Each group would contain its own heading automatically.
15. Categories. Allowing people to be based in different categories or member levels based on dependency sequences.
16. Matching. Allow members to be matched based on their association to search results for other members to see suggestions about the match, and to view it, for relationship purposes.
17. Requirement check. Provide the option to require certain types of input, to be shown if multiple selections contains conditions.
18. Approval integration. For dependency fields or groups to have approval regulations contained within answers which aren't ideal for the sequence of conditions specified through multiple selectors or default configuration. Member browse would simply work by allowing each answer to be contained within its own connected database to the field itself. The database field would contain one answer per section, so each cell belonging to a field group, could contain independent status. It's time to start providing iframely integration for embeds if possible. Profile questions containing external content, could use such an ability with great accuracy.

On 27/04/2017, Daniel notifications@github.com wrote:

Awesome @gsf00001 ............. so when is SE hiring me as a think tank lol

Oh yes JQ, the selectorize was just an example that i found to best describe it all, May be able to be done using other methods maybe, we shall see for the legend @RaymondBenc

Been a good productive afternoon

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[angelflo]

To @DonnaScriptTechs , @RaymondBenc ,

Hi all the team,

This topic is now marked as "interest" ... is it possible to have a roadmap for implementation of these features ? we need to make a choice at the end of this month to buy a social script and currently the member's features of socialengine are really to obsolete.

If the development team can send more info about release date for theses features, this would be really appreciable to know if they already work on these features and if I can wait or if it's just something they plan to add in a long time.

thanks a lot.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

Hi @angelflo in our definitions, Interest means it's on our list to look at for an upcoming release. It has not reached "Accepted" status yet. I'll mention this one to the team again.

[poeticjustice]

@RaymondBenc did say before

From @RaymondBenc on April 25, 2017 8:2

I'll be looking into the technicals of this request and will factor in what version we can have this developed by. I'll circle back with an update once I've looked over the code base for this section.

So hopefully we do hear back.

That said @angelflo , Personally i feel SE is the best script, I remember @jonsimon93 was hoping for answers regards to something in the profile section, but as he didnt get an answer he ended up buying PHPfox but regretted it.

I have been what feels like a protester to get this area addressed. So its awesome to see others feel the same.

Im looking to expand also, and very soon will need upto 6 licences, and this is the one area holding me back at the moment for expansion.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

We've marked this for 4.10 release. It requires more to make it work than can be included in a 4.9.x release.

[JonSimon93]

must say well done @poeticjustice you present your requests so well with comparisons.

and correct i did regret buying phpfox, and would love to wait for SE 4.10 but the signup and browse members page is too important for me to wait a year to 3 years for features that should have been addressed 3 years ago. Apr 2014 was when 4.8 was released 2017 - 3 years later we saw 4.9

2020 for release date for these features which are standard elsewhere, is insane.

3 years so much could change, @DonnaScriptTechs could leave, who has been brill, as could Khushboo and @RaymondBenc etc etc, SE could even sell to phpfox or someone else... who knows

If i built my idea now on SE, someone with money could destroy my idea in a swoop, the search needs to act awmost that of dating sites. guess @angelflo is in the same boat.

Plus I fear 3rd party devs may have gave up or moved on to other platforms, which could leave all my plugins not compatible. building on a site with devs in hope they are around next 3 years but features that are needed

do magine its loads of work, but 4,10 milestone is too long of a wait, and should be reconsidered for 4.9.5 the latest.

@poeticjustice mentioned crowdfunding so many times, Im 110% up for that, If you prioirtise that an do it,

3 years wait is ridiculous and i guarentee if your search function be better, youd hav more sales, and no one else woud be going phpfox , dolphin etc

[DonnaScriptTechs]

@JonSimon93 please note our blog with recent releases. We've released new releases approximately every two weeks now that we have had internal changes in personnel and in how we are doing things. We don't anticipate a 4.10 taking a year or even more than a few months. We did already make big improvements to the search function in regards to user browse for 4.9.0 and 4.9.1. Please test it further.

Releases taking 2 years is a thing of the past. It will not be happening again. I do hope everyone will see what we've been doing now and give us this chance to show we have a renewed focus on what our clients need.

[poeticjustice]

@JonSimon93 I was using SE 3 pre 2010 and remember when 4 came along.

I think 4.8 - 4.9 timeline of releases was due to changes in the company and a new team getting involved for the better. but from SE 3 to 4.8 that was 4 years, so Id doubt it would be 2020.

SE are obviously attempting to streamline, and get all the right devs in place.

[angelflo]

@JonSimon93 totally understand my situation and recap it very well. A so important feature to search and find members on a community website is absolutly vital. I can't wait 3 years and I can't wait 1 year for something who engage the viability of my project. If it's 2months, it's ok ... but if it's 6 months I need to choose another script.

This is why I ask a roadmap with release date. @DonnaScriptTechs : please can you tell me what is the release date (estimated at+/- one month) for 4.10 ? Is it next moth, in 3 months, 6 months, 1 year ?

Thanks a lot for all

[DonnaScriptTechs]

@angelflo I can't give an exact release date as we are just getting into features to put into it. We need to make the features and test, and then hopefully release a beta, rc and then stable. For a beta release, I wouldn't expect it to be more than a few months. I hope to have more info next week once we see what we can include in it and how long it can take to make something like this work well. We want quality releases in all cases.

[angelflo]

@DonnaScriptTechs I also hope that you can give us more info this week... I know that you want quality release and everybody want "quality release" of course.... but when you buy a new computeur, phone, etc... you choose it for quality but you ALSO want to know when you'll receive it, don't you think ? if you need to buy a new smartphone and if the vendor told you that you will receive it in 2018, will you choose this brand ?

[DonnaScriptTechs]

It won't be 2018. I understand your point but I don't know any company that posts a release date before they have features list set. We can't post a date atm. Once we have an idea, we will post a tentative time schedule. As we are going along rather nicely with bug fix releases, I don't anticipate it being a long wait for a 4.10. I also have a live site using this script and I know how it is to wait for features. :)

[dreamgeekcoder]

The ability to search any text related field from one "keyword" search box would also be helpful here.

Ie i want to search for the word "Harry Potter" an answer in ANY text field that may be on a users profile. I have not seen a way to do this.. only by each individual field. But maybe i've missed it...

[gsf00001]

Two thoughts for this (and searching in general, especially for flexibility and performance): A) As dreamgeekcoder mentioned, yes - the ability to search through any field (but I would add that this be an ADMIN-enable/disable field for each search area (controlled via widget or whatever) and then enabled/disabled via User (since this may increase the time for the search and thus the search shouldn't do 'extra work' if it doesn't need to)

B) ADMIN-enable/disable per search area: Option for User to select to match all or any criteria.

(Since the above is related more to overall searching mechanisms, not just the User Profile area, please move to another appropriate place or inform me and I'll do so).

[poeticjustice]

Hi @DonnaScriptTechs I see this was changed to next release, does that mean this will be in 4.9.3 update, If so, I think its time to purchase my additional SE licences and prepare for this update by getting on with my other sites, waiting to launch after 4.9.3 .... thats if its intention is next release of 4.9.3

[DonnaScriptTechs]

We are waiting to see which version we can do this for. It is a more extensive change.

[angelflo]

HI @DonnaScriptTechs , Any news about "redesign browse members as whole" ?? we are now end of september and on 21 May you had write "It won't be 2018"... Can you tell to your community if you already started working on this redesign ? can you give us now a release date ? Thanks to give a real answer to all your community members.

[poeticjustice]

@angelflo I hate to bearer of bad news here,esp as I worked so hard researching so much, making mock ups, presenting issues and how old it is etc.

But sadly I doubt this will be seen for a year if not 2.

We are at SocialEngine PHP 4.9.4 And it was said It would be done for 4.10

But It has since been confirmed this wont be in 4.10 but later.

Im actually prob leaving the whole SE community now, I do hope I have helped raise issues and that but think its time for me to pack up on it all

Angel are you part of the https://community.socialengine.com/

Social Engine no longer use github and have moved all discussions there

@DonnaScriptTechs has been super helpful on everything tho.

I know @angelflo that you said "if it's 6 months I need to choose another script."

but dunno what to say really

[TheJobWork]

https://community.socialengine.com/forums/topic/1832/exciting-news-about-social-engine-php/view/post_id/10068

When you read Donna unable to face founded and constructive criticism...its scary.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

That wasn't the issue. The comment was one that can spiral a thread and was unwarranted. It provided no helpful information and was a blatant attack. We are continuing SEPHP which was good news for clients.

[TheJobWork]

On the contrary, i think you abused your right as a community manager and failed to reply to a constructive criticism ( one year is a LOT when you commit to fix somethign and you pretend its on the way...) . This is useful informations that says a lot about how a company run a business.

Stop the control nonsense and reply professionally to post even when they are not meeting your standards. Plus victimisation only makes you look weak.

I think its common practise, sadly, that commercial script companies blocks their own disgruntled clients when they are exposing truth about the business. And It is baffling i must add, that you felt attacked when your customer clearly was being rather cool. It denotes a rather not healthy business acumen.

A seasoned potential client.

[DonnaScriptTechs]

Well I'm sorry you feel that way. I've been in the business quite a long time as well and was trying to keep the thread on track and not spiraling as tends to happen. If we had been trying to hide it, we would have removed it but we kept it in the community as it was. Please keep this issue on track as well. If this issue is one in which you are interested, it is still on the plan for a feature improvement.

[TheJobWork]

Stop being sorry that i feel sorry ... lord ... apparently you were not in the business long enough to admit what you failed in that exact situation, proof is that you keep on claiming you were right to act this way.

Its really shameful.

Thats for that exact same reason i stopped using commercial script and highly recomend open source communities such as UNA or ELGG to build a reliable platform and avoid dealing with lazy shady money driven teams that no one knows where they are based or where they work from

SE, Phpfox ...all a headache, you just have prooved it again.