Movie Support

[SonarrBot]

We would all like some kind of Movie support, however it is a very complicated matter to properly implement it in Sonarr. We rather not have it at all, than have it hacked in and barely working. This feature will need to be designed with its own architecture, hundreds if not thousands of unit/integration tests, with hundreds of man hours involved. We would need at least 2 additional developers to even consider this feature.

Sadly this means that, despite the number of votes, this feature is pretty much the last item on our todo-list.

[rcketscientist]

You mentioned you'd need two more developers to attempt to add this, I'd be willing to throw my hat in the ring if I could get a brief on current workflow and what would be needed. I have significant C# background. Equally fluent in Java, but not really Javascript, atm. Marginal experience in Web API, REST, etc. Let me know.

[JigSawFr]

As @rcketscientist said, i'm available too if you need help on this feature ;)

[luizfelipefb]

I know money and time is involved, but couldn't you guys create something like a kickstart to sponsor this? I'm trusting that the community would support the development.

[markus101]

We don't want Sonarr to be our job though, if we ran a kickstarter campaign we'd realistically need to take leave from our jobs and make Sonarr our job until support is complete, that isn't feasible for a few reasons, both financially and personally. The biggest reason in my mind is I don't want working on Sonarr to be my job, I work on Sonarr because its fun for me and I can do it in my free time, there have been times where I've put more than 40 hours a week into Sonarr and was I was having fun with it (mostly at least), but from personal experience as soon as you treat it like a job it becomes a less fun.

[icopp]

@markus101, you might want to check out Patreon. You can set up an account on there on a 'feature' model, e.g., people can sign up to chip in some money when you announce a new major feature or whatever, without a specific schedule or expectations to it. It'd let the project's fans chip in something in thanks for your work, without you folks feeling like there's a specific obligation to do things ASAP.

[adz7]

Couchpotato is ok, barely - the layout and design is workable, could be much better but it does the job which is why I've stuck with it this long... Where it really fails:

• Simple tasks like like post-processing your existing movie folders to add in metadata,trailers,subs which should be a painless, delightful process (as it very much is in Sonarr) yet it dies in the ass and you end up having to get the IMDB ID and enter that into almost every filename to make the scarper identify it correctly.
• Automation is non-existent now. I need to initiate a manual search for every movie that is in my watch list. It can't find NZB's at all anymore, the option to add indexers and search are there and I have entered my API keys etc but only torrents appear in search results..
• I can go into the Couchpotato log when I identify an issue, highlight it and it lets me submit the code direct to Github as an issue (which I imagine for devs would make your lives a lot easier as getting that info is half the battle). Only problem is the Couchpotato developer/support community is non-existent, most problems with it could probably be fixed if someone took the time to look at the problem and reply.

I have to say, I get the occasional little hiccup with Sonarr but its stable enough (for me at least) running on a Windows 2012 R2 Server that I haven't had to touch anything on Sonarr in around 6 months aside from modifying my indexers or adding in new content.

There's definitely strong demand for an alternative to CP (I know many folks that have given up on CP but want something like it), I suppose it's completely up to Mark and the team if they can find the time. I mean Sonarr is at a pretty good stage, at what point do you deem it to be "complete" as you are always going to have requests and issues? Maybe it just gets to a point where you divide 60% of your available time to Sonarr maintenance and 40% of your time to developing Radarr (you like that? haha you can have it). Then as Sonarr's requests/issues start to trend down then you can increase the workload on the other project to 50/50 - there may come a time where it needs to increase to 30/70 and back down to 50/50. Alternatively could you find something Open Source (I believe CP is OS) and make it your own to save time? Or team up?

I don't know, just throwing ideas out there. Whatever you do (even if that is bin the idea completely) I can understand you are volunteering your service so care factor is probably not too high, although I'm sure there are many out there that would like to pay you for all the hard work and effort you put in.

So thank you.. looking forward to what the future might bring, on wards and upwards :+1:

[simonk83]

Well said adz7 On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 3:14 AM, adz7 notifications@github.com wrote:

Couchpotato is ok, barely - the layout and design is workable, could be much better but it does the job which is why I've stuck with it this long... Where it really fails:

• Simple tasks like like post-processing your existing movie folders to add in metadata,trailers,subs which should be a painless, delightful process (as it very much is in Sonarr) yet it dies in the ass and you end up having to get the IMDB ID and enter that into almost every filename to make the scarper identify it correctly.
• Automation is non-existent now. I need to initiate a manual search for every movie that is in my watch list. It can't find NZB's at all anymore, the option to add indexers and search are there and I have entered my API keys etc but only torrents appear in search results..
• I can go into the Couchpotato log when I identify an issue, highlight it and it lets me submit the code direct to Github as an issue (which I imagine for devs would make your lives a lot easier as getting that info is half the battle). Only problem is the Couchpotato developer/support community is non-existent, most problems with it could probably fixed if someone took the time to look at the problem and reply.

I have to say, I get the occasional little hiccup with Sonarr but its stable enough (for me at least) running on a Windows 2012 R2 Server that I haven't had to touch anything on Sonarr in around 6 months aside from modifying my indexers or adding in new content.

There's definitely strong demand for an alternative to CP (I know many folks that have given up on CP but want something like it), I suppose it's completely up to Mark and the team if they can find the time. I mean Sonarr is at a pretty good stage, at what point do you deem it to be "complete" as you are always going to have requests and issues? Maybe it just gets to a point where you divide 60% of your available time to Sonarr maintenance and 40% of your time to developing Radarr (you like that? haha you can have it). Then as Sonarr's requests/issues start to trend down then you can increase the workload on the other project to 50/50 - there may come a time where it needs to increase to 30/70 and back again to 40/60. Alternatively could you find something Open Source (I believe CP is OS) and make it your own to save time? Or team up?

I don't know, just throwing ideas out there. Whatever you do (even if that is completely bin the idea completely) I can understand you are volunteering your service so care factor is probably not too high, although I'm sure there are many out there that would like to pay you for all the hard work and effort you put in.

So thank you.. looking forward to what the future might bring, on wards and upwards 👍

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[ghost]

I would love to have a Movies tab right next to the series tab in Sonarr.. and have Movies managed just like Series.. Sonarr does such a good job of managing tv shows. This is how I envision movie integration into Sonarr.

Movies could be marked "Monitored and Unmonitored" just like everything else.

Instead of viewing "continuing only" and "ended only" movies could be viewed, "Unreleased Only", "Theatrically Released Only",(movies that have been released in theaters only) "Retail Only".. (movies that have been released to digital/dvd/blu ray)

Instead of series premiere date you would have theatrical release date. Instead of airdate --- you would have retail release date. Each movie could be tagged with which date is required before searching.. but of course a default such as retail release would be used.

Calendar - could show theatrical release dates and digital/retail release dates for the movies... similar to series air dates and premiere dates etc.

Activity and Wanted would have to be updated to somehow display similar information for Movies..

In Settings - I think it would be better to have Media Management would be renamed to Series Media Management and an additional similar tab titled "Movie Media Management" would need to be created or just leave as Media Management ... clearly mark existing settings as only effecting Series . and have new similar settings clearly marked and only effecting Movies.

I think the profiles section is usable in its current form though additions might be needed, they wouldnt be a high priority.

I think all that would pretty much make Sonarr the Holy Grail..

I realize it might be alot to ask but I just thought I would describe how I envision it here....

[ghost]

Im going to try and setup the dev env for this.. nd see what i can do

[MrsAngelD]

@geogolem one issue you could run into with this, could be that sonarr still doesn't support subtitles, and while it's not as huge an issue for just t.v. I can see it being a much bigger one where movies are concerned. (I'm personally not a dev, but that is something I thought should be on your radar).

[adz7]

@geogolem - go you good thing!!! haha seriously awesome stuff..

@MrsAngelD - Subtitles shouldn't matter to what geogolem is envisioning, if you are using a media centre like most are (Kodi etc) you can easily grab subtitles through that if you have a net connection. Most movies don't need subtitles, though I do realise there are some with foreign language parts and I have been able to get all that I have needed through subscene. The same can be done for TV Shows. What media centre do you use?

[ghost]

I also thought about 3D releases.. etc... there is alot of things that need to be handled.. i got the dev environment setup. im just starting to look.. i dont know if I will actually be able to do anything.. we'll see..

[adz7]

@geogolem they're just parameters that can be setup/focused on later - I'd just start with trying to identify and find movie titles etc - then you can put in specific/required words later, something similar to what Couch has for people that want/need to identify specific releases like 3D,IMAX,HEVC,x264 etc etc

[MrsAngelD]

@adz7 I also use kodi, but sometimes you need the subtitles that come with the movie you've grabbed and there is no other way to get them. That's why subtitle handling is important with Movies.

[adz7]

@MrsAngelD - Why not use Kodi to get the subs? Why do you have to have the subtitles that come with the movie?

[MrsAngelD]

@adz7 I just told you sometimes the subtitles that are included with the movie are the only ones you can find. They don't exist on the sites that you download subtitles from through kodi.

[bassrock]

@MrsAngelD the key is getting movie support in there first. After that, adding in subtitles is an add-on that Im sure others will also help with once the movie ground work is up and running.

[MrsAngelD]

@bassrock I'm not relating to the ability for sonarr to download subtitles, I'm talking about subs that come with the downloads being moved to the folders. Sonarr doesn't even do that, it just trashes included subs.

[bassrock]

@MrsAngelD Understood, but first the key is getting the movie functionality in there. Then after that you just have to detect the subtitle file and move and rename it with the movie. Same with chapters, if theres a chapter file.

[ghost]

i am looking into it guys.. but -- i might decide that i wont even try.. i dont know yet.. i hope i didnt and dont get everybody's hopes up too much!

[markus101]

You're all getting way ahead of yourselves here, @geogolem is only starting to look at the code base. There is a lot to cover, months of work at least. We still stand by our previous comment, unless we get adequate developer support beyond the initial implementation, it's not something we can support.

[MrsAngelD]

@markus101 @geogolem I'm not trying to add a bunch of stuff... I'm just trying to say to whomever does takes on such a task, please keep it on the radar that as of right now sonarr trashes included subtitles, if we're talking movie support than included subtitles need to at least be detected and moved along with the movie. I wasn't trying to demand anything, I just thought it should something to be kept in mind.

[adz7]

@MrsAngelD fair enough, need to be a little more specific then it took x4 posts to explain yourself... CP has the ability to handle subs in the way you are asking, but again this isn't a feature request thread @bassrock is right we need to assist geogolem as much as possible to get the feature up and running first. Adding in features is the lowest priority.. and as markus101 said lets have a reality check and let geogolem have a look - keep calm and carry on - let us know how you go @geogolem we'll be waiting with baited breath

[MrsAngelD]

@adz7 sorry if I didn't explain myself well enough, I'll try to do better in the future.

[adz7]

@MrsAngelD - all good :)

[fedoranimus]

@geogolem @markus101 I started writing my own movie management system (similar to Couchpotato/Sonarr), but think that my efforts may be better suited to digging into adding functionality to Sonarr. Would you like to team up? Perhaps we can start a fork for movie integration and get some architecture assistance from the core team?

Edit: I'm also working on UI designs for integrating Movies and TV Series into a single, understandable UI

[rcketscientist]

If there's a groundswell for this I can take a small piece of the puzzle, unfortunately I don't have the time I did when I first offered.

@fedoranimus I would highly recommend not worrying about the UI, atm. IF this takes off it will spend a long time segregated in a branch. It would be best not to worry about merging the aesthetics of what could be a moving target.

Let me know if there's movement and a need for a few hours a week.

[fedoranimus]

@rcketscientist Understood. It would be prudent, however, to plan how we want things to work before sinking too much time. (Other than things like RSS parsing)

@geogolem I'm not sure if the Profile section can be used as is. Movies have slightly different qualities than Series do.

[ghost]

i did a little investigation into this - but didnt make a lot of progress in trying to figure out how sonarr does things. Instead I forked couchpotato and started playing aroudn with it. Its really not that bad..

The only thing lacking is the GUI.. and its been so long since they cut a release.

I added some code for things like. displaying ETA's of movies (release dates etc). displaying whether the movie is currently available in netflix.

and giving the user the option to have it skip searching/downloading movies that are available in netflix..

only search for titles available in netflix (and user could manually download them). or

just treat titles available in netflix just like any other title..

Perhaps out efforts would be better applied at improving the GUI and featureset of couchpotato. Its functionality really doesn't seem to be that bad... since i have been messing around with it recently (i.e. searching and downloading etc).. Sonarr by far has the best GUI and seems to be the most robust out of sickrage, couchpotato, headphones etc.

Sonarr is also built in C# -- couchpotato is python.. so IMO couchpotato is alot easier to jump into.. but thats just me.. Maybe people could take alook over at the couchpotato repo and see if we might be able to spruce it up instead?

[bcsteeve]

Fully disagree. CP's GUI is fine (maybe you don't have latest?). It is the flawed logic. CP caused so many headaches for me. Sonarr just works. Now, maybe it isn't the client's fault... maybe it is the releases themselves? Maybe for some reason TV show releases are just better? SO many times, CP would grab the wrong language, the wrong subs... even the wrong movie. It was ONLY good for managing my library (but Plex is better) and for manually d/l titles (but I can do that on any indexer). To me, the whole point of something like CP is that I can hear about XYZ coming to theaters and I can add it.. .and one day it would magically appear in Plex. That happens for TV. That just doesn't happen for movies. I'd get #*(@ cam despite specifications. I'd get some random movie instead of what I asked for. Whatever, it just didn't work. I was MUCH better off ditching it and using Indexer (grab) + Filebot (rename) + Plex (organize).

[fedoranimus]

I concur with @bcsteeve. I've had nothing but problems in CP, but Sonarr is a very solid piece of software.

I also believe the longevity of Sonarr depends not only on staying extremely functional for TV Series, but also adding support for Movies as well.

The UI for CP is confusing; Sonarr's is pretty good on the other hand. It could do with a redesign, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. ;-) Sonarr's UI is very understandable as it stands.

[bcsteeve]

One thing I'd like to add: whenever I complain about CP doing weird things, CP supporters scoff and tell me its because my settings aren't tweaked right (or whatever). Sonarr's settings are just as confusing. The difference? Out of the box, Sonarr works. CP needs to be "tweaked" - apparently beyond my tweaking abilities. I've had very few issues with Sonarr and a quick question on the forum gets me the settings I need to adjust. With CP it is lots of issues with obscure resolutions.

So it goes beyond UI. It speaks to the fundamentals.

[fidelix]

I'm a software developer, I do this for a living, and I know Python (CP) and C#(Sonarr).

I've looked at both codebases and the Sonarr codebase looks very professional. It's by no means perfect (I'm certainly not a big fan of C#) but the CP codebase is a mess.

Though it's C# based (that comes with some disadvantages), Sonarr has a very solid foundation for adding a lot more functionality - CP doesn't.

[bcsteeve]

C# always did seem like a strange choice (in my opinion) for what essentially boils down to a web service. But good code is good code.

[fedoranimus]

Many web services are written in C#, and many standalone client/server applications. .Net is a very powerful technology stack and the Sonarr code is quite elegant (if not a big confusing to jump into at first).

We're getting off topic however. Let's bring it back to what needs to be done in the short and long term to start supporting movies in Sonarr.

[ghost]

@bcsteeve : I had the same opinion and experience with CP as you until recently I set my global filters

this is in the "settings--> categories"

you can set several comma separated strings of words:

preferred: Words that give the releases a higher score. required: Release should contain at least one set of words. Sets are separated by "," and each word within a set must be separated with "&" ignored:Ignores releases that match any of these sets. (Works like explained above)

I have my preferred field set; proper, repack, 2HD, AAF, ADIT, ALLiANCE, AMIABLE, AN0NYM0US, ASAP, BAJSKORV, basp, BATV. BLOW, BIRD, BRMP, BS, C4TV, CBGB, CHD, CINEFILE, Crimejoep, CRiMSON, CRiSC, CtrlHD, Cyphanix, CyTSuNee, DAA, DERIDDER, DiFFRENT, DIMENSION, DON, ECI, EbP, EZTV, FANDANGO, FELONY, FoV, FQM, FTV. GECKOS, GRYM, hannes3, HAiDEAF, HDEX, hdmanicas, IFH, IGUANA, IMMERSE, JAPHSON, KILLERS, KINGS, KRAVE, LEGiON, LOL, METIS, MiLLENiUM, MOOVEE, NODLABS, NoTV NTb, PSYCHD, PublicHD, QoQ, Q.o.Q., QRUS, QUSTOM, RARBG, RARTV, REFINED, REMARKABLE, RightSiZE, ROVERS, SbR, SECTOR7, SimplyReleases, Simply & Releases & Toppers, SHiTSoNy, SINNERS, SONIDO, SNOW, SPARKS, SRT, SRT & *, STRATOS, TayTO, TheKnight, TRIPS, VEDETT, VETO, VietHD, WiKi, W4F, XOR, yestv, YFN

required: mkv, x264, 720, 720p, 1080, 1080p, AC3, DTS,

ignored:german, dutch, french, truefrench, danish, swedish, spanish, italian, korean, dubbed, swesub, korsub, dksubs, vain, CAM, CAMRIP, BDSCR, DDC, DVDSCR, DVDSCREENER, HDCAM, HDTS, PDVD, SCR, SCREENER, TC, TELECINE, TELESYNC, .TS., -TS-, TS, WEBCAP, WEB&Cap, WEB & CAP, WEB-Cap, WEBRIP, WEB&Rip, WEB & Rip, WEB-Rip, WORKPRINT, WP, XviD, exe, VLC, danish, dksubs, dubbed, french, FRENCH, german, GERMAN, ita, italian, ITALIAN, korean, korsub, spanish, SPANISH, SPANiSH, swedish, swesub, truefrench, turkish, 2HB, -AFG, aMMo, AVIGUY, ChameE, COMPULSION, COOL, core2hd, -DDLV, [G2G], GiuseppeTnT, hdchina, HebSubs, hebsubs, Mandarin, Micromkv, -mSD, -msd, MrLss, NOHATE, reenc, -REenCO, -RP, VOSTFR, vostfr, vain, www.Speed.cd, YIFY, ZER0COOL, [AHSH], [Deadfish], [DHn], [DsunS], [FuniRip], [M-L]

I think that handles the majority of garbage...

Anyway - i dont want to take this too far off subject.. Sonarr is amazing.. and I still would love for movieSupport to be added - and I dont mind helping out if I can. I also am a software dev - I just personally havent had much experience with c# and .net. so I can still contribute - just not as easy to get started as say CP which is written in python... for me at least.

[bcsteeve]

While I very much appreciate you sharing your settings... it is exceedingly ridiculous that the end user would need to input all that to get a release.

[ghost]

@bcsteeve : I agree with you - however, there are added benefits of having the user be able to specify those things - since then the user can decide what they prefer, want to ignore or require.

perhaps the way couchpotato does it with allowing such a set of user specified strings is actually a good thing, but the issue is that couchpotato has no default/initial or reccomended settings for those fields. Anyway, I am not disputing the desire to have sonarr or a fork of sonarr handle movies in a fashion similar to how well it beautifully and elegantly handles tv shows. I was just delighted to find out couchpotato wasn't quite as bad as I had previously thought.

It comes down to development effort - I would rather people work on/polish couch potato to improve its GUI etc. than to have it remain the same and a sonarr like movie functionality never come to fruition.

I think discussing couchpotato is useful in this discussion since couchpotato is the best existing example of the desired use-case. The issue is we want something like couchpotato but without all its shortcomings and with the robustness/elegance of sonarr.

[0xdevalias]

Just wanted to throw in my /2c on the CP vs S debate. Have looked into refining/improving CP a few times over the years, and the code seems all over the place, somewhat hacky, and overall too hard to logically reason what making a change might impact on. I haven't looked at the S code base, but I feel like it's probably stronger. I feel like if you're going to compare dev effort required, I would be comparing a full CP rewrite against adding movies to S.

[rcketscientist]

Folks are off topic on this thread. Please keep it to posts about furthering a development process in Sonarr with regard to movies. Comparisons and how to fix CP are of little value in organizing the manpower or getting the ball rolling. I stayed on this thread since I anticipate helping at some point and I'd rather not unsubscribe due to 8 daily posts that don't further the goals. There's plenty of places to take a CP chat.

[ghost]

@rcketscientist : I totally disagree with you - discussing couchpotato is directly related to implementing movie support in sonarr. I dont think discussing couchpotato, its shortcomings or potential is off topic at all, when discussing movie support in sonarr. As a matter of fact - it is directly related to the topic. In any case - im not interested in forcing a discussion on couchpotato where it is not wanted - i just dont think that comments about couchpotato is totally unrelated to sonarr movie support. I'll try to avoid bringing up couchpotato in this thread from now on.

Its kind of like a "feasibility analysis" or something .. and just taking note of what else is out there.

[adz7]

FWIW I originally posted here because of my dissapointment with the CP experience in general and how much different it was compared to my experience with Sonarr. Snatching wrong copies/resolutions - labelling movies as TV shows and not downloading them - unable to post process correctly as well as a mountain of other minor bugs was just some of the reasons for revisiting the possibility with Sonarr. Now from the experts out there it sounds like Sonarr's code in C# is strong. There is nothing particularly wrong with CP's GUI it's more the fact that it doesn't do what it's supposed to whereas Sonarr does. This to me (a layman) sounds like Sonarr is built better, for example if you look at a Camaro is it really a Camaro if it doesn't have a ZL1 Chev under the hood? To me CP is a Camaro with a Kia Rio engine under the bonnet, it looks nice but it's missing 7 cylinders.. I feel like if people wanted to ressurect CP they would be posting requests in droves over on the CP forums - but they aren't - those forums are dead with zero dev support. Maybe we need to start a thread on the Sonarr forums to discuss this further. I'll do that soon and start by making a list of people that have discussed their willingness to participate and what code they have skill in. Then we can allow the people that know how to design and build an engine (so-to-speak) decide on the best option? Once that is decided then they can move onto the next stage. How does that sound to everyone? There is no doubt we all agree on one thing and that is, that something needs to happen on this subject and discussing it further here is not progressing the idea ahead..

[fedoranimus]

@adz7 I fully support this and offer my skills & time.

Edit: Please submit the forum thread link here when it's created.

[bassrock]

@adz7 I can help as well.

[Taloth]

Hey guys, let's consolidate the discussion a bit. I'm fine with discussing general ideas with regard to movie support, but lets not drift too far to comparisons.

First off, let me emphasis why the Sonarr team hasn't involved themselves in movie support. Our primary concern is our inability to maintain and support it. Believe it or not, but support takes up the bulk of our time. This is crucial for you to understand, as well as the implications: There needs to be developers to keep it maintained AND support it on IRC & forum. Even if a bunch of awesome guys wrote it and dropped it in our lap, it wouldn't be a nice present. It would be hard to resist a well written contribution, and we would be stuck with supporting it. (Please note that CP has the same issue, with only a single dev whereas we have 3 plus a bunch of regulars on IRC, reddit & the forum doing 'first-line' support, which has been a lifesaver for us)

I've always said that movies is a totally different animal compared to tv. There's much less standardization in the release names, and far more tags to interpret. So my question to you is, what do you want to tackle? What is the inherent issue that CP has that could never be solved? (not without tweaking the heck out of the settings)

What is the primary usecase for automating movies? It's certainly different than tv, basically one-offs. How would you deal with naming exceptions? For tv we have a list, manually maintained. But there you set a naming exception and you're good for the rest of the season. Movies are one-offs, so maintaining an exception list is going to be a disaster, so how would you suggest solving that problem?

To get back to usecase. I don't want it to download automatically. I just want it to filter the releases, notify me if a movie with acceptable quality comes out and then ask me what to get. And if I don't respond it time, download the best release and put it in escrow instead of blindly importing & renaming it. That sure could be a nice smartphone app. Does that cover the primary usecase? It's from a usenet perspective, where you want to be 'quick enough' while avoiding wasting bandwidth. Torrents is of course a different story.

Anyway, please make sure you got an idea about what you want to automate, what features the user really needs/wants. You might find that users don't want it automated to the extend that we do for tv, and that could be the way to 'do it right'.

PS: Yes, starting a thread on the forum might be a good idea.

[bcsteeve]

What they do wrong: by default, hide (or at least pre-fill) all the crazy settings that "just makes it work". Incorrect grabs is the #1 thing it screws up on. Primary use case: set and forget. Being able to define a movie that is wanted prior to release and have it auto download upon release. Dealing with naming exceptions: err... sorry, but what's a naming exception? Your interpretation of use case: I'm on board with that! That's not how I envisioned it, but given the large size of the files that makes sense.

I mean... really, more than anything, I just want to not have to remember movies I intend to d/l at some unknown point in the future and to happen to check it close to (but not before) release. I realize there may be services out there that keep track of that sort of thing, but I'd like it all done in one place. Whether it auto-downloads or asks me first... I suppose I don't care. Auto would be my preference if I had some comfort that it would get it right!

[Taloth]

Dealing with naming exceptions: err... sorry, but what's a naming exception?

For tv shows Sonarr is very strict on the names. So if a group releases a show under a different name (year suffix, country suffic, stuff like that) it needs a naming exception so Sonarr knows how to identify the release. See https://forums.sonarr.tv/t/scene-naming-tvdb-naming-conflicts/137.

I'd love to hear what the others say.

[fedoranimus]

I've created a forum link for this discussion.

[bassrock]

Not sure if any of you have seen this. Just found it https://radarr.video/ someone has done an entire fork of Sonarr for movies.

[adz7]

This is awesome, I've been AWOL over the holidays but to come back and see my original comment snowball and generate something like this is amazing. Great work everyone - and I'm so happy they took the name Radarr and ran with it!! Fkn awesome! :D

PS. @fedoranimus thanks for creating the forum discussion I know I said I would but have been crazy busy with December/Jan - I'm back now and it's very satisfying to see a team forming and you guys getting the support you need to build Radarr, great stuff.