Won't complete a long toolpath.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

As the title states, the machine stops about a third of the way through the job... It's repeatable.. Even using CNC3D commander I'm getting the message "your job has completed successfully"... right on top of the bar that says it's like 29 percent of the way through. I tried the sd card thing, formatted it as stated and switched to a cheap 4gb card... no change.

The spindle keeps spinning, it doesn't return to job zero or anything... just like you hit the pause button but the job clears from the GUI totally. Either on the WEBUI or CNC3D commander makes no difference.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

This one is really frustrating me.... I had decided that the issue was running the g-code from the SD Card... but today the issue reappeared and this time I was running via USB cable and the file on the computer. It stopped twice in the exact same spot... the countdown in UGS went from 1 hour and 30 minutes remaining to "completed in 10:23". No error messages or anything. Spindle still spinning in the spot it was when it froze.

Mboss32 commented 2 years ago

Can you post your gcode file and how you created it?

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Can you post your gcode file and how you created it?

Here's the file below, created in Aspire. It's not been specific to this one though... I've had different files do the same thing, and one I am pretty sure came from the fusion 360.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rOBB0ufa5UX4Bev9fUTQopN3oxs7M9yj/view?usp=sharing

Mboss32 commented 2 years ago

What post processor did you use?

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Just the standard grbl post I thought.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

I have duplicated this issue with a second XPro V5 and the toolpath above.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Can you post your gcode file and how you created it?

Was there an issue with the G-Code I shared? Man, I have been through hell and back getting this whole machine working right.. Finally it's running as it's supposed to but won't finish the job... so it's still just a giant paperweight.

MichaelMartinez commented 2 years ago

What are your machines GRBL settings? Your motor current settings may be to high, I have seen that a lot in other forums and message boards. If the motors get too hot, they will shut down.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

I think we have confused something here or am I talking to two different people? Indeed originally my current settings were too high, and bringing them down to the neighborhood of 1 amp run, .8 amps hold fixed that particular issue which was loss of steps, major loss of steps. I think they were set to 2.8 and 1.5 amps respectively originally. That was confusing for me because of the 3 amp steppers I have and the setting being RMS. I suggest you make the wiki a bit more clear on that.

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What are your machines GRBL settings? Your motor current settings may be to high, I have seen that a lot in other forums and message boards. If the motors get too hot, they will shut down.

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MichaelMartinez commented 2 years ago

I am jumping in as a bystander to try and help, I don't work for Spark Concepts... Just a happy customer. I totally understand having a problem and not knowing what to do about it. Going crazy sucks. I will stop offering ideas if you want, just ask. For now, I have a few thoughts, things to think about and questions...

I looked at the gcode file and it is over 100,000 lines long. Nothing stands out to me as being bad in the file. Specifically around the 20,000 to 40,000 line numbers AKA 29%... They are properly formatted and short gcode lines.

Here are some potential ideas as to what may be happening;

Power spike - Does something on the same circuit kick on around this time? Are you turning different things in your space on and off around the time it stops working? Do you have multiple things connected to same circuit? Is the circuit isolated? Is there a possibility of dirty power going to the machine? - A good surge protector will eliminate power spikes.
Background task when using the computer? Is the computer a laptop or desktop?
What do run for a spindle? If its a VFD, do you have the spindle properly grounded? Is it on a separate circuit? Is the cable crossing the stepper cables?
EMI from all the electronics being too close and/or not isolated/grounded properly
Do you have a rats nest of cables crossing? Are your cables shielded? If not, do you have ferrite on them?

We don't have $250k machines and consequently... our machines are very sensitive to electricity and electronic noise. I suspect power is the problem here but I am admittedly not an expert.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

No, this is all great stuff. I was just wondering if I was talking to one or two people. I had a bit of a rat's nest of wires, not as bad as the picture looked, but really that was just because I was switching between two separate XPro V5's on the fly, trying to eliminate my specific board being the issue. And since I can duplicate this on both boards, chances of that being the case is highly unlikely. I am about to hit send with the spindle turned off and set to no spindle, and see if we can either rule out or place blame on the RS485 Connection. I will report back. Thank you very much.

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:30 AM Michael Martinez @.***> wrote:

I am jumping in as a bystander to try and help, I don't work for Spark Concepts... Just a happy customer. I totally understand having a problem and not knowing what to do about it. Going crazy sucks. I will stop offering ideas if you want, just ask. For now, I have a few thoughts, things to think about and questions...

I looked at the gcode file and it is over 100,000 lines long. Nothing stands out to me as being bad in the file. Specifically around the 20,000 to 40,000 line numbers AKA 29%... They are properly formatted and short gcode lines.

Here are some potential ideas as to what may be happening;

Power spike - Does something on the same circuit kick on around this time? Are you turning different things in your space on and off around the time it stops working? Do you have multiple things connected to same circuit? Is the circuit isolated? Is there a possibility of dirty power going to the machine? - A good surge protector will eliminate power spikes.

Background task when using the computer? Is the computer a laptop or desktop?

What do run for a spindle? If its a VFD, do you have the spindle properly grounded? Is it on a separate circuit? Is the cable crossing the stepper cables?

EMI from all the electronics being too close and/or not isolated/grounded properly

Do you have a rats nest of cables crossing? Are your cables shielded? If not, do you have ferrite on them?

We don't have $250k machines and consequently... our machines are very sensitive to electricity and electronic noise. I suspect power is the problem here but I am admittedly not an expert.

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Spark-Concepts commented 2 years ago

Thats more than fair lol. Electronics have a way of frustrating the hell out of everyone!

I'm more than happy to send you our controller that runs this code fine from our test rig so we can get this sorted. Just send me your address in an email. Do not reply to the github email notification, it will post your message and info to this open forum...

Out of curiosity, how did you load the .nc file to the SD card?

MichaelMartinez commented 2 years ago

I couldn't see your picture, I think you may be replying from email. There is an issue thread here: https://github.com/Spark-Concepts/xPro-V5/issues/87

How is the machine plugged in? I have mine on two circuits. One for the controller, computer, and power supply for the controller. Another circuit for my VFD/Spindle and water pump. There is nothing else on those circuits.

I also laid out my wires such that my VFD is about 3 feet away from the computer, xPro and power supply. My wifi was all screwed up on the computer that controls the xPro when the VFD was near it... that is when I discovered EMI problems. I didn't even consider that and it turns out these hobby machines are like EMI sponges while being EMI flame throwers at the same time.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

I couldn't see your picture, I think you may be replying from email. There is an issue thread here: #87

How is the machine plugged in? I have mine on two circuits. One for the controller, computer, and power supply for the controller. Another circuit for my VFD/Spindle and water pump. There is nothing else on those circuits.

I also laid out my wires such that my VFD is about 3 feet away from the computer, xPro and power supply. My wifi was all screwed up on the computer that controls the xPro when the VFD was near it... that is when I discovered EMI problems. I didn't even consider that and it turns out these hobby machines are like EMI sponges while being EMI flame throwers at the same time.

maybe you are onto something here with this. I've got a 3 way splitter coming out of a single outlet. and a 10 foot heavy duty extension cord lol. Water pump I haven't been turning on most of the time.. But I can confirm, even if shamefully, that I've had Xpro, VFD, and Laptop cable all hooked up to that one splitter. Nobody is perfect lol.

Mawg1 commented 2 years ago

EMI flame throwers

the most accurate description of VFDs I have ever seen!

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

I couldn't see your picture, I think you may be replying from email. There is an issue thread here: #87

How is the machine plugged in? I have mine on two circuits. One for the controller, computer, and power supply for the controller. Another circuit for my VFD/Spindle and water pump. There is nothing else on those circuits.

I also laid out my wires such that my VFD is about 3 feet away from the computer, xPro and power supply. My wifi was all screwed up on the computer that controls the xPro when the VFD was near it... that is when I discovered EMI problems. I didn't even consider that and it turns out these hobby machines are like EMI sponges while being EMI flame throwers at the same time.

Tried her again.. Still via an extension cord to the power supply for the XPro. But the VFD was not plugged in and I disabled the spindle in the firmware ($Spindle/Type=none) ...So I'm just moving the thing around in the air now. Unsurprisingly, she quit on me again. Here's what I'm seeing in the WebUI.. You can see the change from Run to Idle.

Mawg1 commented 2 years ago

Maybe try pulling the gcode file from the SD card and then uploading it to NCviewer? (https://ncviewer.com/) take a look and see if anything strange is going on there?

How did you upload the file to the SD card - from the pc or through the WebUI?

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Maybe try pulling the gcode file from the SD card and then uploading it to NCviewer? (https://ncviewer.com/) take a look and see if anything strange is going on there?

How did you upload the file to the SD card - from the pc or through the WebUI?

Yeah I've been through that already. This is multiple different gcode files now... and the kicker is it also does the same exact thing if I skip the SD card altogether and run the code via USB and either CNCjs or UGS.

MichaelMartinez commented 2 years ago

Dang.

What kind of machine is it? The reason I ask is because you have a FS of 3000. My max feedrate is 2000 set in GRBL. I have a Queenbee pro on linear rails with a lead screw.

Can you please post your GRBL settings as well? type $$ into your command line on the WebUI and copy/pasta that into here.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Dang.

What kind of machine is it? The reason I ask is because you have a FS of 3000. My max feedrate is 2000 set in GRBL. I have a Queenbee pro on linear rails with a lead screw.

Can you please post your GRBL settings as well? type $$ into your command line on the WebUI and copy/pasta that into here.

Same machine. My feedrate is higher, but I'm not seeing why that would be the issue... I can jog the thing back and forth all day at 3000 and it runs nice and smooth. Not trying to be a smartass, I appreciate any and all help. I will note also that I've been cutting the pink home depot foam until I get to where I can trust it. Point being, I could cut this stuff at 10000mm/m if the machine would let me. I will try turning it down though.

MichaelMartinez commented 2 years ago

Did you try lowering the feedrate? Just a thought that maybe your program is outrunning the capability of the steppers torque and/or max rotational speed. There is a lot to digest when it comes to those variables. Ie. Critical speed, coefficient of friction, torque, Coefficient of Collar Friction, etc.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

I did just now, to no avail. Man, I went in today with a completely new toolpath fresh out of Vectric Aspire, standard grbl post. Set the machine at 2000 max all axes. Got about 8 percent through, stopped, "job completed in (15) minutes".... It stops where it is in the toolpath and the spindle keeps spinning (It's disconnected and unplugged but you can see the "S11000" in the output window.) ....thing is possessed I swear !

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Did you try lowering the feedrate? Just a thought that maybe your program is outrunning the capability of the steppers torque and/or max rotational speed. There is a lot to digest when it comes to those variables. Ie. Critical speed, coefficient of friction, torque, Coefficient of Collar Friction, etc.

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MichaelMartinez commented 2 years ago

Please post the GRBL setttings you are using...

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Please post the GRBL setttings you are using...

$AP/Password=** $AP/IP=192.168.0.1 $AP/Channel=1 $System/Hostname=CNC_xPRO_V5 $Http/Enable=ON $Http/Port=80 $Telnet/Enable=ON $Telnet/Port=23 $Radio/Mode=STA $Bluetooth/Name=XPRO_V5_BT $Notification/Type=NONE $Notification/T1= $Notification/T2= $Notification/TS= $Message/Level=Info $User/Macro0= $User/Macro1= $User/Macro2= $User/Macro3= $Homing/Cycle0= $Homing/Cycle1= $Homing/Cycle2= $Homing/Cycle3= $Homing/Cycle4= $Homing/Cycle5= $Report/StallGuard= $Stepper/Enable/Delay=0 $Stepper/Direction/Delay=0 $Stepper/Pulse=5 $Stepper/IdleTime=255 $Stepper/StepInvert= $Stepper/DirInvert= $Stepper/EnableInvert=Off $Limits/Invert=Off $Probe/Invert=On $Report/Status=1 $GCode/JunctionDeviation=0.020 $GCode/ArcTolerance=0.002 $Report/Inches=Off $Firmware/Build= $Limits/Soft=Off $Limits/Hard=Off $Homing/Enable=On $Homing/DirInvert=XY $Homing/Squared= $Homing/Feed=200.000 $Homing/Seek=2000.000 $Homing/Debounce=250.000 $Homing/Pulloff=3.000 $GCode/MaxS=24000.000 $GCode/MinS=0.000 $Laser/FullPower=1000 $GCode/LaserMode=Off $GCode/Line1= $GCode/Line0= $Spindle/Enable/Invert=Off $Spindle/Enable/OffWithSpeed=Off $Coolant/Delay/TurnOn=1.000 $Spindle/Delay/SpinDown=0.000 $Spindle/Delay/SpinUp=0.000 $Spindle/PWM/Invert=Off $Spindle/PWM/Frequency=5000.000 $Spindle/PWM/Off=0.000 $Spindle/PWM/Min=0.000 $Spindle/PWM/Max=100.000 $Spindle/Type=HUANYANG $X/StepsPerMm=200.000 $Y/StepsPerMm=200.000 $Z/StepsPerMm=200.000 $A/StepsPerMm=200.000 $B/StepsPerMm=100.000 $C/StepsPerMm=100.000 $X/MaxRate=2000.000 $Y/MaxRate=2000.000 $Z/MaxRate=2000.000 $A/MaxRate=2000.000 $B/MaxRate=1000.000 $C/MaxRate=1000.000 $X/Acceleration=200.000 $Y/Acceleration=200.000 $Z/Acceleration=100.000 $A/Acceleration=200.000 $B/Acceleration=200.000 $C/Acceleration=200.000 $X/Home/Mpos=0.000 $Y/Home/Mpos=0.000 $Z/Home/Mpos=0.000 $A/Home/Mpos=0.000 $B/Home/Mpos=0.000 $C/Home/Mpos=0.000 $X/MaxTravel=1340.000 $Y/MaxTravel=1255.000 $Z/MaxTravel=135.000 $A/MaxTravel=1255.000 $B/MaxTravel=300.000 $C/MaxTravel=300.000 $X/Current/Run=1.000 $Y/Current/Run=1.000 $Z/Current/Run=1.100 $A/Current/Run=1.000 $B/Current/Run=0.250 $C/Current/Run=0.250 $X/Current/Hold=0.800 $Y/Current/Hold=0.800 $Z/Current/Hold=0.900 $A/Current/Hold=0.800 $B/Current/Hold=0.125 $C/Current/Hold=0.125 $X/Microsteps=8 $Y/Microsteps=8 $Z/Microsteps=8 $A/Microsteps=8 $B/Microsteps=16 $C/Microsteps=16 $X/StallGuard=16 $Y/StallGuard=16 $Z/StallGuard=16 $A/StallGuard=16 $B/StallGuard=16 $C/StallGuard=16 $Errors/Verbose=Off Ok

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Ran it today with nothing connected... no motors, no spindle, just the emergency stop switch. Same thing happened... it would appear at the very least that this is something not related to my build. Only took me taking the whole thing apart three times to find this out lol.

MichaelMartinez commented 2 years ago

I am not sure how you got those awesome settings in one shot... all I can manage to do are the GRBL numbers. In any case, we have some differences between our settings:

Of note... step pulse time for me is 4, idle delay is set to 250

My $X/Current/Run=1.8 and $X/Current/Hold=0.5 these are the same on X, Y and Z

[12:44:55] [ $$ ]$0=4 ;Step pulse time, microseconds

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $1=250 ;Step idle delay, milliseconds

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $2=3 ;Step pulse invert, mask

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $3=3 ;Step direction invert, mask

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $4=0 ;Invert step enable pin, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $5=1 ;Invert limit pins, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $6=1 ;Invert probe pin, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $10=1 ;Status report options, mask

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $11=0.010 ;Junction deviation, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $12=0.002 ;Arc tolerance, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $13=0 ;Report in inches, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $20=0 ;Soft limits enable, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $21=0 ;Hard limits enable, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $22=1 ;Homing cycle enable, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $23=0 ;Homing direction invert, mask

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $24=100.000 ;Homing locate feed rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $25=300.000 ;Homing search seek rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $26=250.000 ;Homing switch debounce delay, milliseconds

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $27=10.000 ;Homing switch pull-off distance, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $30=24000.000 ;Maximum spindle speed, RPM

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $31=8000.000 ;Minimum spindle speed, RPM

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $32=0 ;Laser-mode enable, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $100=199.000 ;X-axis steps per millimeter

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $101=200.000 ;Y-axis steps per millimeter

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $102=200.000 ;Z-axis steps per millimeter

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $103=200.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $104=100.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $110=2000.000 ;X-axis maximum rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $111=2000.000 ;Y-axis maximum rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $112=2000.000 ;Z-axis maximum rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $113=1000.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $114=1000.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $115=1000.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $120=50.000 ;X-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $121=50.000 ;Y-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $122=50.000 ;Z-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $123=200.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $124=200.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $125=200.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $130=940.000 ;X-axis maximum travel, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $131=1440.000 ;Y-axis maximum travel, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $132=110.000 ;Z-axis maximum travel, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $133=300.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $134=300.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $135=300.000 ;undefined

Mboss32 commented 2 years ago

$s to show all the extended settings, $$ to show grbl settings

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 3:10 PM Michael Martinez @.***> wrote:

I am not sure how you got those awesome settings in one shot... all I can manage to do are the GRBL numbers. In any case, we have some differences between our settings:

Of note... step pulse time for me is 4, idle delay is set to 250

My $X/Current/Run=1.8 and $X/Current/Hold=0.5 these are the same on X, Y and Z

[12:44:55] [ $$ ]$0=4 ;Step pulse time, microseconds

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $1=250 ;Step idle delay, milliseconds

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $2=3 ;Step pulse invert, mask

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $3=3 ;Step direction invert, mask

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $4=0 ;Invert step enable pin, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $5=1 ;Invert limit pins, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $6=1 ;Invert probe pin, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $10=1 ;Status report options, mask

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $11=0.010 ;Junction deviation, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $12=0.002 ;Arc tolerance, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $13=0 ;Report in inches, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $20=0 ;Soft limits enable, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $21=0 ;Hard limits enable, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $22=1 ;Homing cycle enable, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $23=0 ;Homing direction invert, mask

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $24=100.000 ;Homing locate feed rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $25=300.000 ;Homing search seek rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $26=250.000 ;Homing switch debounce delay, milliseconds

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $27=10.000 ;Homing switch pull-off distance, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $30=24000.000 ;Maximum spindle speed, RPM

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $31=8000.000 ;Minimum spindle speed, RPM

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $32=0 ;Laser-mode enable, boolean

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $100=199.000 ;X-axis steps per millimeter

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $101=200.000 ;Y-axis steps per millimeter

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $102=200.000 ;Z-axis steps per millimeter

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $103=200.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $104=100.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $110=2000.000 ;X-axis maximum rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $111=2000.000 ;Y-axis maximum rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $112=2000.000 ;Z-axis maximum rate, mm/min

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $113=1000.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $114=1000.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $115=1000.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $120=50.000 ;X-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $121=50.000 ;Y-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $122=50.000 ;Z-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $123=200.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $124=200.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $125=200.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $130=940.000 ;X-axis maximum travel, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $131=1440.000 ;Y-axis maximum travel, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $132=110.000 ;Z-axis maximum travel, millimeters

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $133=300.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $134=300.000 ;undefined

[12:44:55] [ $$ ] $135=300.000 ;undefined

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MichaelMartinez commented 2 years ago

Thanks @Mboss32 !

I just had another thought after finishing a project... Static Electricity.

My machine shocked the out of me when I touched the rail on the y-axis trying to get a look. When I say , I mean that in the scared sense. There isn't enough voltage to kill me as the spindle is properly grounded... just that static electricity is obviously building up and I need to chase it down and eliminate it.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Hey, I'm willing to try anything. I will say that cutting this foam that I've been using for test material is very static-y for sure.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Thanks @Mboss32 !

I just had another thought after finishing a project... Static Electricity.

My machine shocked the out of me when I touched the rail on the y-axis trying to get a look. When I say , I mean that in the scared sense. There isn't enough voltage to kill me as the spindle is properly grounded... just that static electricity is obviously building up and I need to chase it down and eliminate it.

The static just doesn't account for the fact that I am not able to complete these paths without the spindle even plugged in.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

I'm marking this closed. Replacement board seems to have solved the issue.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

I'm just going to leave this open as it was never fixed for me. This includes multiple XPro units, and it includes running the gcode without having any motors connected or spindle running. I closed it when I thought the replacement board fixed it.. jinxed myself because it was probably the next time I tried that it did the same thing.

luckypants123 commented 2 years ago

Long shot but have a look at this

Tuckvcarve commented 2 years ago

New to this forum so you can take this with a grain of salt if you wish. Do you own your copy of Vectric Aspire? The trial version limits the number of useable G code lines. If your machine just stops your lucky, I had an older version (trial) that would run just fine for awhile on small jobs but on bigger jobs it would eventually plunge the bit down into my work till it snapped off. I ended up buying an copy to use and it never happened again.

luckypants123 commented 2 years ago

Just as an fyi to anyone still struggling... I gave up on the xPro V5 and bought a BlackBox - no more issues.

southsideboats commented 2 years ago

Yeah definitely not Vectric that was the cause. I gave up also a while back on that controller. Too much time wasted.

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bn1 commented 1 year ago

Hi guys, any news on this? @Spark-Concepts, etc. I've just finished the RatRig's KillerBee with this controller unit and what a heck, I was not able to finish even the wasteboard. Any workarounds? Should I ask someone to return me money for the controller unit and buy another brand? Whats the solution? Will FluidNC solve anything?

PS: I'm running the latest firmware - with the previous one, I was barely able to upload anything to the SD card...

PPS: I can see the very same behavior as mentioned above - it just jump into "idle" state, keeping Spindle (VFD) and cooling running. No error message, nothing. When running the same file again and again, it stops in a different position (everytime after a complete move/command).

Thank you for any advice! It took me ages to get this up and running, well, not so running...

southsideboats commented 1 year ago

I got an email notification for this question, and I feel your pain, so let me just hit you straight... Get a different controller. Burn this one, put it in the trash, run it over with your car.. doesn't matter. I don't know what the cause or solution is, or why some people don't seem to have issues at all.. I went through THREE of these controllers, hundreds of dollars in wasted material.. and finally just gave up. Do you want to troubleshoot, change firmware a hundred times, deal with people who assume it's you who is doing something wrong? Or do you want to use the CNC to actually make stuff?

Just buy something else. I found a shapeoko controller on ebay for a hundred bucks and it hasn't once given me this issue, or any issue for that matter. Same code too. This controller the XPro V5.... is a complete and utter piece of trash.

luckypants123 commented 1 year ago

As Southside said, replace the control. Not worth the frustration.

bn1 commented 1 year ago

Thank you guys for quick responses. I've already spent another few hours tackling things around without any further progress. I'm slowly accepting the reality 🤦‍♀️

luckypants123 commented 1 year ago

I did find attaching ferrite rings to each end of the USB cable made a significant improvement, but not enough that i wanted to keep using it.

If you’re in the market for another controller, I’m very happy with BlackBox + Interface. Big improvement.

bn1 commented 1 year ago

Well, I gave it last try, reorganized cables, gave it new power cable to be as far as possible from the power source, tried it without any other device or tool under electricity but laptop (running on battery) - meaning no vaccum, no air filtration, just nothing else. Running from SD card. No difference...

PS: @luckypants123 thanks for the tip, that's what I'm looking at right now! What's your workflow? CAD/CAM --> usb stick --> hit the play button on the interface?

luckypants123 commented 1 year ago

It’s a nice setup. The interface has a USB port, which you can use, but also wifi, so I just leave the stick in the interface and transfer over wifi. Then you can use the screen to select files on the stick and run them. Nice as you can leave common files like facing and probing routines on the stick and can run the machine without any pc/laptop/etc…just on its own. The interface has all the stuff you’d normally need to setup like probing, jogging, setting zero etc. I’d recommend getting their probe too as it has cycles built in for it. I didn’t and wrote my own cycles for a cheap eBay probe, but if I could do it again I’d get theirs.

281Er commented 1 year ago

Thank god I ran into this section. I've been chasing ghost for days trying to fix this issue. I pretty much rewired my entire machine but nothing has worked. I have those random program stops. Does any other controller work similar to this where I can connect via wifi to transfer my program to the controller? Thanks in advance

luckypants123 commented 1 year ago

@281Er see my previous. BlackBox + Interface.

bn1 commented 1 year ago

@281Er Well, I have ended up using BlackBox with spare computer attached to it which runs OpenBox Control - then I can connect to it using my phone for jogging as well as sending and running gcode directly from other computer - which is crucial for me. This is IMHO the best setup I can imagine so far for now.

I also bought the Interface, but I'm not using it - there's no possibility of organizing stored files remotely, so then when you are playing around with something, multiple gcode files pile up really quickly, while you are not able to easily delete or organise them from the Interface, so then you need to scroll down the whole list of files, which is really annoying. You are not able to replace file with same name, so every iteration means a file with a new name. Also, the Intefrace is unable to run scripted macros, so you are unable to find hole center, measure, etc., you are able only to find predefined corner of the stock material, nothing more.

Having to say, OB BlackBox + Interface both worked really well since the very first time and I had no issue so far for now. Sadly, I can't say anything similar about SC xPro, I was playing around with it with no better success...

Keegjay commented 1 year ago

Same problems here with the xpro v5 on ratrig killerbee, has spark concepts just abandoned their customers ? Has anyone had responses from Rat rig ?

southsideboats commented 1 year ago

Unfortunately this seems to be the case. I hate to say it, but your best bet is to just bite the bullet and save yourself the heartache... get a different controller. Wish I had better news. I have two of these xpros and I wouldn't give them away in good conscience.

281Er commented 1 year ago

Yes it seems spark concepts has abandoned us. I did however got everything to work after doing all the recommended modifications. Twisted pair cable and signal repeater did the trick for me. Haven't had any issues for a while now.

Keegjay commented 1 year ago

Yes it seems spark concepts has abandoned us. I did however got everything to work after doing all the recommended modifications. Twisted pair cable and signal repeater did the trick for me. Haven't had any issues for a while now.

It is a good thing that you got it going though.

Could you give me a reference or a link to the signal repeater you have used ? Do you use any EMI filter, ferrites ?

What I think is happening is that the xprov5 is getting problems with reading data due to interference because once I get the issue where the machine just stops and says job done, I have to restart the controler or It has a hard time opening/launching and refreshing the files on the sd car while trying to browse from cnc 3d commander or through wi fi webui. It slowly starts showing files but it is slow at getting to show all of them if not reset (I then very frustratingly lose my homing).

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