Inclusion of new fields in the PEOPLE register?

adrik29 commented 3 years ago

Dear all: I have a stand alone project called OmniPaper in which I provided biographical info for Opiliones authors along with their list of relevant publications and their PDFs.

To replace/merge this with our project in TaxonWorks appears to be simple enough, I just have to figure out a field in TW to include (1) biography of the person, (2) the URL for OmniPaper with that person's photo and (3) captions/credits for the photos. How can I do this?

proceps commented 3 years ago

If source has authors parsed as people, you can use Filter Sources task to find all publication of a particular person. For each person, you can create data attributes, and depictions (I do not see depiction option for person in radial annotator, but this should easily be fixed). If depiction is provided, it could be annotated with different levels of attribution. For each person, you can also provide identifiers, etc.

adrik29 commented 3 years ago

@proceps = thanks, it would be nice to open this possibility to include images of the researchers. I understand that the text of a short biography should be easy to enter in some annotator field, but not the URL of the image (at least I don't know which field to use to this end).

mjy commented 3 years ago

I'd suggest the following:

Ensure the person is in wikidata, for example: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1043
Link the wikidata Q number (identifier) to the person in TaxonWorks.
Provide the biography in Wikidata, there you are doing it for everyone (not sure if possible)
Provide a picture to Wikidata, there you are doing it for everybody You will be able to draw down these data from a wikidata API, and match it to queries in TaxonWorks, to merge it into your website, in theory.

@debpaul please ping people who might be able to comment on this?

adrik29 commented 3 years ago

@mjy -- that's a fine suggestion -- so I can integrate data from different sources and yet everything would be connected through TaxonWorks. I'll make a few experiments and see if this is feasible...

debpaul commented 3 years ago

@mjy I'd suggest ORCID for living folks (and having them get one if they don't have one). IF they are deceased, then Wikidata great but page might not exist and would need creating. Pictures go in Wikimedia then link to Wikidata. I don't think you can put a "biography in Wikidata," rather you link to an existing biography. Wikidata links to existing sources (be those websites, papers, books, etc). In essence, it is a gathering of references about a given person, place, thing, concept. The entity must also meet "notability" requirements. @adrik29 please let me know if you have questions. David Shorthouse can advise us. (@dpsspiders on twitter).

It is not hard work to add references to Wikidata or images to Wikimedia. But it is work, and it does take time to learn how to do it.

adrik29 commented 3 years ago

@debpaul -- I found it tiresome to enter pics in Wikimedia because of the copyright barrier: too many questions and categories to fill...

debpaul commented 3 years ago

@debpaul -- I found it tiresome to enter pics in Wikimedia because of the copyright barrier: too many questions and categories to fill...

Yes @adrik29 I understand. It'd be great to look for ways to get the wikidata community to help (they will!). But we'd need to point them to the lovely photos (and they need to be CC0 I believe, or maybe CC BY will do, I'd need to check) and relevant metadata. IF there are lots of images, much of this process can be automated...

debpaul commented 3 years ago

@debpaul -- I found it tiresome to enter pics in Wikimedia because of the copyright barrier: too many questions and categories to fill...

In general, we all need easier ways to provide metadata. It is tiresome, but it is also key to discovery

mjy commented 3 years ago

Workflow for metadata in TaxonWorks is fairly evolved:

Don't load one image at a time, gather the images you want to load
Use Tasks -> New image to select a set of metadata, remember this set stays across images added, it has to be applied to each set
Drag drop 20 people images
Click the pertinent "Apply" to apply the current set of metadata
Now, navigate to, or create people then
Use the radial annotator for a given person, the smart-selector will show you recent images, so it's easy to select the pertinent image and assign it to an individual person.

adrik29 commented 3 years ago

@debpaul -- Many years ago I started to compile biographies and pictures of harvestmen workers and organized all this material manually as a website. But later I started to see that it could be done more professionally, as part of a database, linked with other kind of data, instead of a standalone site. I got many photographs from scanning books and papers or by contacting the authors themselves. I usually clash with wiki-whatever because of the copyright neurosis. That's why I would rather point to an author photo on my website instead of entering them in Wikimedia.

jlpereira commented 3 years ago

Sorry, pushed to the wrong issue. Reopening

SpeciesFileGroup / taxonworks

Inclusion of new fields in the PEOPLE register? #2308