Open mjy opened 4 years ago
The best we can do is to provide 3 different OTU labels:
So when you pick an OTU from the list, you should be able to see the full name format. In determination, it is probably important to see #3 name in use
In the OTU/Taxon page, it will be #2 valid name
Interactive key, GBIF export etc. - probably #2 as well.
Are you assuming there is only 1 OTU per Protonym?
Not necessarily. But if there are multiples, those should be differentiated by :name (TaxonName: name). That pattern should stay the same. So the full format would be "Tibicin tibicin (Linnaeus, 1758) as Cicada tibicen Linnaeus, 1758: OTU1". Where OTU1 is the name of OTU.
OK- I like the concept of name then and now- that's great, it helps to clarify the concept.
But that's the easy part- you haven't addressed what/when to do with creating OTUs, and updating the name that they point to. See the subsequent combiantion problem.
if OTU is tied to Aus bus (Jones), a protonym, whose parent is Aus
and that OTU is used in asserted distributions, determinations, etc.
and bus (Jones) changes parent to Cus
then 1) The OTU needs be updated to point to a new Combination (Aus bus (Jones)), which never before existed because it was the current placement.
Yes or no?
Working on it. But in short Protonym: Aus bus (Jones) will have an OTU "Aus bus (Jones) as Bus bus Jones" (attached to protonym, meaning to Original spelling "Bus bus" another OTU "Aus bus (Jones) as Cus bus (Jones)" (attached to subsequent Combination) another OTU "Aus bus (Jones) as Aus bus (Jones)" (attached to another Combination). If the determination is linked to the combination, the last portion of the OTU name (name in use) will never change. The first portion will represent the current name. OTU should never jump from one TaxonName to another.
Side note- pedantically OTUs will change taxon name when they are linked in Error.
Are you saying that OTUs should never be linked to Protonyms except if they are referencing the name in original combination? Our data are not imported that way, many many are linked to the Protonym in current classification.
Exactly, if it is important to preserve the determination string, the OTU should be linked to combination. Unfortunately when migrating data, in most cases it is impossible to make a distinction. The distribution data are just linked to the protonym (3i for example, all subsequent combinations are disregarded). There is no reliable way to say if they are linked to the original combination or subsequent. But when we are talking about new data, this distinction should be clear. In the INHS database, we have a determination as a taxon_name (we do not have any combinations there). The taxon_name was always freely changeable. It never intended to preserve the original determination name, how it was spelt. The determination string is only stored as a determination label. When sanding data to OTU/Taxon page, it does not really matter, all is collected under the valid name with current taxonomical position.
So then we are in agreement. We need functionality to create the subsequenct combinations and update OTUs to point to new taxon names (Combinations) when they are updated, and we know they should be (of course when we don't know there is nothign we can do). We must do this to preserve asserted values.
This issue facilitates this: https://github.com/SpeciesFileGroup/taxonworks/issues/1449.
Well, you have to kwon what name the previous determination was link to (was it original combination or current). In case of INHS collection, you do not know. It does not have any combinations (not original, not subsequent). Even if you assume, that OTUs are always linked to current placement, it is much safer to run a script, which check if the combination identical to the current placement exists, if not create this combination, and move the data from the protonym to combination (unless current and original combinations are the same). Otherwise, once you start moving manually, you lose the track what was moved and where and what is not. The interface #1449 will be very confusing for the people which originally linked the data to protonym original combination or combinations. So if it is implemented, I would like to have a project preference. So it is completely hidden in my project, so the data are not moved around just by mistake.
Of course the curator must make a decision based on their understanding of their data, that's the point. The understanding is that I'm moving this, and that some of my past records must move. Knowing which ones to move is upto the curator.
More importantly, we must provide instructions for what to do moving forward. Clearly, if people are curating from the literature, we need to change the interfaces (if you don't like #1449) so that curators can not pick names that don't reflect the Combinations (capital C) that they are observing. Letting them link to the current classification, in your view point, for new, understood data, is not OK. This requires a major set of work, and thought. We need to come up with the best practices now.
I am arguing that it more or less has to be OK to let them do this (change reference for an OTU from Protonym to Combination, and prompt them for updates when the concept evolves (as it is based on new combiantions). OTUs give us the flexibility to keep content with them, and let the names change, recording their history.
OTUs, Taxon Names, and History
Our objective is to address this issue: _If an OTU label was used to pick an OTU and relate it to some data, then when a Protonym moves, the label reflected in the OTU changes how it looks. The new, updated label, may not look like the historical use, what should happen? This is the key issue, what are the steps to resolve these cases.
Basic principles and summary
Background on the TaxonName classification
Side note: How are OTU data summarized?
TaxonNames and OTUs
A TaxonName and an OTU (1:1)
One TaxonName, many OTUs
Many TaxonNames, Many OTUs
!! Which OTU should I use?
We might see:
Citing data linked to OTUs
OTUs and new subsequent combinations
When should I create a new OTU?
What are the mechanisms in TaxonWorks by which new OTUs created?
What happens when I use the "wrong" OTU?