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Speech / Persuasion Broken #1049

Open Constellation-VASCO opened 1 week ago

Constellation-VASCO commented 1 week ago

After an indeterminate amount of time playing, speech challenges eventually break. Every speech option fails, no matter the difficulty, regardless of your ranks in persuasion and other modifiers.


Details

It appears some effect sets your speech modifier to 0 persistently, giving every attempt a 0% chance, as it's a multiplier. This can be fixed via console: player.setav 2d873b [x]. Sometimes it has to be set to 2 to balance out whatever is modifying it to 0. forceav probably works too.

Game Version

1.12.30

Language

English (EN)

New Game

No

Reproduction Steps

Play normally, taking as many speech challenges as possible. Best way is to join the trackers alliance and find roaming bounty targets in cities. Pass these challenges, rank up your persuasion skill, and eventually you'll start consistently failing every attempt, no matter the difficulty.

Constellation-VASCO commented 4 days ago

I've observed that NG+'ing restores the referred AV to it's default value of 1.00.

Does anyone know how the Persuasion perks affect persuasion chances? Using player.getAVInfo 2d873b with four ranks of persuasion returns the following:

GetValueInfo: PlayerPersuasionSkillSuccessChanceMult on Vincent Nemo
...Current Value: 1.25 Computed Base: 1.00
...Base Value Components:
......Reference Base Value: 0.00
...Modifiers: Temp: 0.25 Perm: 0.00 Damage: 0.00
...Level-up Value: 1.00

I've got Paramour affecting my character at that moment and four ranks in Persuasion. When I NG+'s, I had three ranks in persuasion.

Shouldn't the Perm modifier be at 0.50 with four ranks of persuasion? Or does the persuasion perk effect apply to some other AV related to speech checks?