Pirate Bay?

[p1r473]

Previously, I enjoyed your hosts, as it didn't block anything but ads. The list name is even adware + malware. But, blocking The Pirate Bay, is now inserting some level of censorship I am not happy with Though I do not use this site, I am unhappy this ad and malware list is now censoring.

[welcome[bot]]

Hello! Thank you for opening your first issue in this repo. It’s people like you who make these host files better!

[StevenBlack]

@p1r473 CoinBlockerList has added thepiratebay.org. Are you able to take it up with them?

CoinBlockerList specializes in flagging domains that mine via client browsers. So this isn't censorship, I assure you.

[p1r473]

Thanks. I will open a ticket with them.

[p1r473]

As a bitcoin miner, sadly, I can no longer use your list, because its now blocking a lot more than just Pirate Bay for me... Any possibility of an ad/malware list of yours that doesnt include CoinBlockerList, for people like me who mine Bitcoins? They aren't just blocking mining in client browsers any more, but almost every Bitcoin mining pool in existence

[lightswitch05]

@p1r473 have you tried making your own whitelist? https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts/blob/master/readme.md#how-do-i-prevent-domains-from-being-included

[p1r473]

Yea but I don't want to whitelist every mining pool I use... I liked this list because it didn't block anything good before

The coin miner list author gave his answer. I guess I will need to find a new list unless @StevenBlack would create a sublist that doesn't include this list

Their response:  I will not remove Pirate Bay as it is doubly bad for users. First, the domain is used for mining. Second, the site is bad for many people who make their money with their creativity, e.g. actors and singers.

All other tries to remove such obviously illegal pages from the lists will be ignored and deleted or reported.

So the discussion here is closed.

[funilrys]

You can create your own list without it just by deleting its data/sourcename directory before generating 🤔

[lightswitch05]

Yea but I don't want to whitelist every mining pool I use

Its a copy & paste operation (minus the the 0.0.0.0) from the CoinBlockerList into your whitelist file. If you are using this list through a pihole, that list would be /etc/pihole/whitelist.txt

A lot of work goes into these lists, saying that you don't feel like messing with a whitelist isn't going to get anyone here to listen to your ideas about moving the list into an optional extension

[p1r473]

I just like lists that work out of the box, where I dont have to spend time whitelisting things, like this list used to be

I really dont want my whitelist to be the entire coinbloickerlist.... a whitelist should be a few exclusions, not a list of 10s of thousands....

thanks anyways

[StevenBlack]

@p1r473 did you know... it's ridiculously easy to clone this repo and make your own host file variant? If you are using Mac or Linux, you already have Python, just do it. If you're a Windows user, install it, Python is free.

[p1r473]

Thanks I will see if I can figure it out

[ghost]

https://gitlab.com/ZeroDot1/CoinBlockerLists/issues/10#note_86995105 Looks to me like it's turning into a censorship issue.

[jaimelive]

I love this list and really appreciate the work that goes into it, which is why I'd like to start by thanking everyone for the commitment. However it worries me that the CoinBlockerLists are being merged when they clearly have censorious tendencies.

ZeroDot1 @ZeroDot1 · 1 month ago Maintainer

@p1r473 I will not remove Pirate Bay as it is doubly bad for users. First, the domain is used for mining. Second, the site is bad for many people who make their money with their creativity, e.g. actors and singers.

All other tries to remove such obviously illegal pages from the lists will be ignored and deleted or reported.

So the discussion here is closed.

Is this view shared by the maintainers of this list? Is it ok for one of the default lists on pihole to make these type of ethic judgements for their users?

[anudeepND]

@StevenBlack here are my thoughts...

The main goal of this repo is to block ads, trackers, nasty malware and make internet browsing a pleasant experience. But including torrent sites in the unified host file is not a good idea. Another option is that we can maintain a list of torrent sites to block, if you agree, I will be glad to contribute to it.

[ghost]

https://gitlab.com/ZeroDot1/CoinBlockerLists/issues/10#note_86995105 Looks to me like it's turning into a censorship issue.

I greatly hope that the project's goal isn't blocking websites solely because they run miners. As he said the list creator's reasoning is based on ideological, not technical reasons and CoinBlockerLists should be removed from the default sources.

[oblitum]

Why don't make a variant that have miners separated?

[dnmTX]

@funilrys can't you code something so every user be able to whitelist specific domains on their end?

[funilrys]

@dnmTX This project already offers that.

To quote the README template:

How do I prevent domains from being included?

The domains you list in the whitelist file are excluded from the final hosts file.

The whitelist uses partial matching. Therefore if you whitelist google-analytics.com, that domain and all its subdomains won't be merged into the final hosts file.

The whitelist is not tracked by git, so any changes you make won't be overridden when you git pull this repo from origin in the future.

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But if one needs a tool overall in the world and not necessarily this project, I already wrote:

• Ultimate-Hosts-Blacklis-Whitelist // Also available on PyPi.
  • It can be used (by default) with the whitelist list of the Ultimate Hosts Blacklist project.
  • It can be used (while using the --without-core argument) without the whitelist list of the Ultimate Hosts Blacklist project.
  • It can be used with your own whitelist list (given to the tool with the -w argument).

It's actually a tool which can be used everywhere with your own list and not necessarily the one from the Ultimate Hosts Blacklist project. It's really focused on whitelisting and nothing else.

[dnmTX]

Thanks for the info @funilrys. I believe that should settle once and for all the PIRATE BAY SAGA. A way is provided to whitelist any desired domain,so,if this is not enough....this lists here is definitely not for you. This is GitHub people.Hands on is required here.