[Suggestion] Revoke land claims using laws

[BlazeGuy2]

From @CompactDisc on February 15, 2018 0:16

We have serious issues on our server with people joining the game for an hour, claiming lots of plots and then leaving. There are no logs to see how long they have been inactive, nor are there ways to unclaim all their land at once.

I would propose adding an option to revoke land using laws. So people can automatically lose their land after a certain amount of inactivity.

Copied from original issue: StrangeLoopGames/EcoIssues#4549

[BlazeGuy2]

From @midn8t on February 16, 2018 5:48

as a admin i use the admin command remove them, but if u dont have active admin then this is not easy thing deal with, they should add option in tool set to turn on so many days pass then user is deleted along with all items in game from save folder. users

it also be nice to have in tool set option to manually delete users. this is just something that admins who police the servers be doing, and or setup to happen automatically.

I wouldn't suggest having it as a voting thing due to mob rule and people bully taking land from others who may have more friends then others, as it is mob rule is already issue with the law system at times on server me and my friends play on we do not even allow people to pass laws pretty much we setup laws to prevent it just because there more of us then others usually that vote.

https://github.com/StrangeLoopGames/EcoIssues/issues/4597

[BlazeGuy2]

From @MarjieAVolk on February 16, 2018 20:17

You can reduce 'mob rule' with laws also :P Prevent who can vote, etc.

We do really need a nicer way of removing property. The idea of a law for that sounds great to me. That is something we might even want to include as a default law, eg. if you have played for less than 2 hours and you haven't logged on for 2 days, your property is removed.

[BlazeGuy2]

From @CompactDisc on February 16, 2018 20:40

I would definitely be all for that!

[BlazeGuy2]

From @D3nnis3n on February 28, 2018 14:58

Ah. Yeh, a law is an even better option then a config option.

[BlazeGuy2]

From @midn8t on February 28, 2018 16:3

well with crime and punishment system laws are suppose to be break able latter on.

You can reduce 'mob rule' with laws also :P Prevent who can vote, etc.

right now game is ether full dictatorship with only admins creating laws and controlling the server world or its full on mob rule or none admins

we cant name people yet unless that has changed all can do is say ether admins can vote or create laws or have it so people can only vote for laws in there own districts unless that is or has changed in next version ?

as for - law creating ability to remove land claims there really needs be more thought behind this then just removing the land claim -. this method alone creates all types of issues.

I am not against law system also giving players ability to remove land claims but
just removing land claim presents all types of game play issues for that user latter on in life - you might as well just ban that person for every playing on the server again.

I should know I am admin and have used the unclaim command to actively remove land claims from our world.

the person account needs to be fully deleted that way if they decide to play game on server again they can with out losing all there markers -> currently good admins can remove land claim markers with the /unclaim ability and a good server has active admins who do this stuff.

problem is those players sometimes come back and want to play latter on and they can not because they lose all there markers using the unclaim or removing the land markers removes them from the game world but not there char or stuff.

admins need ability to remove users from the data base it self this should be done from the server tool set also with out the server needing to be rebooted after words and this is something that i think is going be more of a challenge then people think.

something should be player control on server and something should not be -> there should be a default setting that says if you do not play on server for total of x amount of days then your char is deleted from the world and you will have to start over - and admins should have right to be able to enforce this option to happen sooner and this setting should be something i should be able to setup from the server tool set.

latter on you can have not really a law but a game mechanic where people in that area who live near that person can vote on ability to remove that person from the game to delete them from the data base.

we also need ability to edit the welcome message, to explain to people the server rules, what will get you banned and what wont what get your char deleted from the game world and what wont for example.

I had to ban 12 people so far from our server world from them breaking rules and they all tried claim they did not know the rules because rules are not listed when they log in. -> even thought other players told them to stop harassing them

this is anther example where beside banning them it be nice be able to just delete them from the game world data base as a user completely.

anther reason for removing users from game world deleting them is voting it self -> the server requires x amount of people to win a vote that number is based on number of users that signed on in world, prime example is world leader.

in our game we tested this we had 70 some users created in world only 20 where active but it required a majority of 40 some votes to over through that player from position, well if you only have 20 active players in world that is issue you never get that number of votes even if every one voted.

so just removing people banning them or removing land claims also does not fix this issue.

really need ability to remove people from the game world it self from the server data base file.

[BlazeGuy2]

From @D3nnis3n on February 28, 2018 16:20

I find it quite important to fully reset the Player, e.g. when he joins again he has Default skillpoints, no inventory and the ten 10 claims.

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