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Open-Source Coronavirus Monthly Update Meeting #5: 17:00-18:00 BST, Monday 10th October 2022 #29

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TomkUCL commented 2 years ago

If you like SARS-CoV-2 proteins, drug discovery, and open science, then join the SGC online, and the sgc-ocn team meeting today from 17:00-18:00 BST to discuss pan-coronavirus antivirals.

Join Zoom Meeting: https://ucl.zoom.us/j/97172937586

mattodd commented 2 years ago

OK, can you post an agenda (just text in one of these boxes - easier to search for (using e.g. Google) than a PDF (which Google can't see)). I'd like to include:

1) The recent inhibitor you found @TomkUCL https://github.com/StructuralGenomicsConsortium/CNP4-Nsp13-C-terminus-B/issues/22#issuecomment-1270191492 2) Where we're up to with compounds from Enamine etc @ahsgc 3) Update on your chem, @TomkUCL 4) Update on SPR (@ClaratheChemist feel free to come along!) 5) Update on Review - @TomkUCL could you post links to any and all active documents please?

Anything from previous meetings in Aug and Sept we need to resolve?

Pinging the team, which you can do like this: @StructuralGenomicsConsortium/cnp4-nsp13

TomkUCL commented 2 years ago

Today's monthly meeting agenda will include the following:

Setting up the Nsp13 SPR assay (17:00-17:10) @TomkUCL @ClaratheChemist

Updates on delivery of Enamine Compounds (17:10-17:20 @ahsgc

Updates on the synthesis of generative compounds (17:20-17:30) @TomkUCL

Helicase Review (17:30-17:45)

TomkUCL commented 2 years ago

Slides from today's meeting: Monthly update 10.10.2022.pdf

Meeting recording: https://ucl.zoom.us/rec/share/UfW40rWEFudZrBCQaOJzc2RNB_5KbSsXN9W2JQh3gPo0nRcC4qDwekNhi8apoQD6.sQvZF7STRCh448Dg Passcode: e=cj4s8Z

Meeting minutes:

mattodd commented 2 years ago

Action item on one of us to catch up with Joe Newman about the value of ADP as a control, given its relatively high off rate. Though I think we've some interesting choices here that should allow us to validate the SPR assay.

Action on you @TomkUCL to get together the two sheets of compounds that we sent to Enamine - one commercial, one generative - and delineate which have been sent, which will not be coming (with help from @ahsgc) and which we're still waiting for. Also highlight in each sheet which compounds still need synthesis (either us or Pyramal).

@tmw20653 will catch up with Matthieu and team about the use of Helihub to direct us to the most relevant examples if inhibitors for the review.

jamesday100 commented 2 years ago

Hi All, sounded like a productive meeting with a good discussion. And happy to hear that there could be some potential tool molecules. I am still in the process of reading the papers. Did we find fragments in the same potential binding site as the PUG molecule?

@TomkUCL: PS: For tricky reductive aminations, often you can use titanium isopropoxide to force the imine to form.

TomkUCL commented 2 years ago

Thanks @jamesday100 , the suggestion is helpful. Is it common to run RA reactions from the TFA salt of the free amine, I tend to see only examples of HCl salts..

There are several fragments from Joe Newman's screen that bind at the ATP pocket where this PUG molecule is proposed to bind by docking. I have highlighted these here in purple, as well as the residues highlighted in the PUG paper (red). Not sure how it can be regarded as an allosteric inhibitor if it binds at the catalytic site however... image image

jamesday100 commented 2 years ago

Thanks for the additional information and beautiful images.

PS for the titanium isopropoxide reductive amination, I would prefer the free base for these reactions. Often the TFA salt will interfere in the reaction.

TomkUCL commented 2 years ago

No problem - Chimera X is great for getting pretty images like this from PDB structures.

I'm having some trouble with this currently. I'm trying to convert the TFA salt of the amine below to the free base but as you can imagine it is very hydrophilic, so a typical base wash with hydroxide or carbonate takes all of the amine into the aqueous phase. Do you know a potential solution to get around this? I've considered using a dowex resin, but wondered if this is the easiest thing to try based on your experience with small primary amines.. Thanks.

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toluene44 commented 2 years ago

One method I’ve used in the past is to liberate the free base in brine, then extract with iso-propanol. Iso-propanol is not soluble in brine and this is a good method for extracting water-soluble compounds

Peter

From: Tom Knight @.> Date: Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:07 AM To: StructuralGenomicsConsortium/CNP4-Nsp13-C-terminus-B @.> Cc: Brown, Peter J @.>, Team mention @.> Subject: Re: [StructuralGenomicsConsortium/CNP4-Nsp13-C-terminus-B] Open-Source Coronavirus Monthly Update Meeting #5: 17:00-18:00 BST, Monday 10th October 2022 (Issue #29)

No problem - Chimera X is great for getting pretty images like this from PDB structures.

I'm having some trouble with this currently. I'm trying to convert the TFA salt of the amine below to the free base but as you can imagine it is very hydrophilic, so a typical base wash with hydroxide or carbonate takes all of the amine into the aqueous phase. Do you know a potential solution to get around this? I've considered using a dowex resin, but wondered if this is the easiest thing to try based on your experience with small primary amines.. Thanks.

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TomkUCL commented 2 years ago

@toluene44 thanks - this step is following from a TFA de-Boc, so presumably I'll need to neutralise the TFA salt with a with base wash before I can do this extraction?

jamesday100 commented 2 years ago

No problem - Chimera X is great for getting pretty images like this from PDB structures.

I'm having some trouble with this currently. I'm trying to convert the TFA salt of the amine below to the free base but as you can imagine it is very hydrophilic, so a typical base wash with hydroxide or carbonate takes all of the amine into the aqueous phase. Do you know a potential solution to get around this? I've considered using a dowex resin, but wondered if this is the easiest thing to try based on your experience with small primary amines.. Thanks.

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Yes I can see why that might be an issue. Often, for polar amines we use SCX columns (Silica-Ph-SO3H) washing through with methanol to trap the amine and release with 2M ammonia in methanol. Or you can trap the acid with (Silica-NH2) and wash with methanol to elute the free base.

Additionally for polar amines, you can use 10% iPrOH in CHCl3 and use saturated brine solution as the aqueous.

toluene44 commented 2 years ago

I’d just make up 2N NaOH in brine

Peter

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@toluene44https://github.com/toluene44 thanks - this step is following from a TFA de-Boc, so presumably I'll need to neutralise the TFA salt with a with base wash before I can do this extraction?

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TomkUCL commented 2 years ago

Thanks Peter - this seems to have done the trick.