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Lich King "Val'kyr Shadowguard + Defile timers" #2350

Open Philliipe opened 5 years ago

Philliipe commented 5 years ago

Decription: Val'Kyr Shadowguard + Defile timers aren't correct.

How it works: Currently the timers for the Val'Kyrs + Defiles on Lich King are incorrect. Especially if there is a 3rd wave of Va'kyrs to spawn and a defile as well. Unfortunately, at the moment Lich KIng decides randomly to do either defile first or to do Val'Kyrs but no one knows.

How it should work: The timers should be fixed. If a DBM/DXE/Big-Wigs or any other encounter addon is announcing that Defile is coming 5 sec and you have Val'Kyrs in 10, then Defile should be casted in 5sec and then Val'Kyrs, not the opposite. At the moment is pretty random.

Source (you should point out proofs of your report, please give us some source):

SUNWELL LIGHT INFUSION STREAM: https://youtu.be/9UWbIqiEAyI?t=1043 - Third wave of val'kyrs about to spawn - Defile comes first, right after Val'Kyrs. ANOTHER SUNWELL LIGHT INFUSION STREAM: https://youtu.be/dB-_Na6kDSo?t=336 - Third wave of val'kyrs about to spawn again - skipping the defile timer and going for val'kyrs first and then defile. PARAGON LICH KING 25 HEROIC - https://youtu.be/RSeVCw3hVgQ?t=431 - Third wave is about to spawn - FIRST VAL'KYRS then 20 sec after DEFILE, not even right after or before.

If you want me to provide more information, let me know. Cheers

Philliipe commented 5 years ago

Please, try to work on this update, as the timers are really messed up.

I didn't see on any server, Lich King to cast defile while spawning 2nd val'kyr out of 3. You literally don't have time to react because you're support to stack behind, on the side or under whatever and you suddenly defile pops. The timers have to be adjusted.

Looking forward

Azathothh commented 5 years ago

"PARAGON LICH KING 25 HEROIC - https://youtu.be/RSeVCw3hVgQ?t=431 - Third wave is about to spawn - FIRST VAL'KYRS then 20 sec after DEFILE, not even right after or before." well, that's not true for sure, there's defile first and then val'kyrs moment later https://youtu.be/RSeVCw3hVgQ?t=422 20 sec after 3rd wave there was 4th defile, not 3rd

Philliipe commented 5 years ago

Ok sunwell happens that defile is casted while valkyrs cast still didn’t end.. that’s what I’m talking about. One of the casts should end then the other one should begin, they’re kinda overlapping now

Please, check the attached video from our Sunwell stream last night - https://youtu.be/ucLIvSe-DBQ?t=6833

As you can clearly see, the 2nd person is getting grabbed and right after that defile comes, when the 3rd val'kyr didn't grab anyone yet. This simply shouldn't happen. Casts are overlapping at the moment.

Eaglesring commented 5 years ago

So im not gonna use Paragon vid becuase they are swaping POVs so timers are inaccurate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yS_fC9ti9w

Start of phase 4:10 1st Valkyr 4:31 (21 sec after start) 1st Defile 4:47 (37 sec after start) 2nd Valkyr 5:17 (46 sec after 1st valkyr) 2nd Defile 5:22 (35 sec after 1st defile) 3rd DEFILE 5:55 (33 sec after 2nd defile) (YE DEFILE IS BEFORE VALKYR) 3rd Valkyr 6:06 (49 sec after 2nd valkyr)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXEwXYr_pzw Start of phase 3:33 1st Valkyr 3:54 (21 sec after start) 1st Defile 4:07 (34 sec after start) 2nd Valkyr 4:37 (43 sec after 1st valkyr) 2nd Defile 5:42 (35 sec after 1st defile) 3rd DEFILE 5:15 (33 sec after 2nd defile) (YE DEFILE IS BEFORE VALKYR) 3rd Valkyr 5:25 (48 sec after 2nd valkyr)

and now sunwell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucLIvSe-DBQ

Start of phase 44:02 1st Valkyr 44:23 (21 sec after start) 1st Defile 44:41 (39 sec after start) 2nd Valkyr 45:07 (44 sec after 1st valkyr) 2nd Defile 45:15 (34 sec after 1st defile) 3rd Defile wasnt casted (timer expire w/o casting) (45:43) 3rd Valkyr 45:52 (43 sec after 2nd valkyr) 3rd Defile w/o DBM annouce 46:06

another try

Start of phase 1:23:42 1st Valkyr 1:24:03 (21 sec after start) 1st Defile 1:24:20 (38 sec after start) 2nd Valkyr 1:24:47 (44 sec after 1st valkyr) 2nd Defile 1:24:55 (35 sec after 1st defile) 3rd DEFILE 1:25:27 (33 sec after 2nd defile) (AND NOW IS DEFILE CASTED BEFORE VALKYR) 3rd Valkyr 1:25:33 (46 sec after 2nd valkyr)

So ye 3rd defile/3rd valkyr is RANDOM

Lukabxjx commented 5 years ago

Problem is simple and there is no timers that you need to write. Explanation:

SOMETIMES< When ph2 start: Valks->Defile->Valks->Right after 3rd valk grab person Defile->now it should be again defile 5 seconds before 3rd set of valks(on sunwell 3rd defile comes randomly after 3rd set of valks without timer)->Valks->Defile->valks->Defile and so on. So how it should be: Valks->Defile->Valks->Defile->Defile->Valks->Defile->Valks->Defile and so on. Instead of: Valks->Defile->Valks->Defile->Valks->Defile-Valks->Defile->Valks->Defile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucLIvSe-DBQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2742 In this video(at this time) 3rd defile is coming and nothing happens.

Sunwellxd commented 5 years ago

You have to watch more movies. Then you will notice that there is a priority for using spells by LK. BB :)

Lukabxjx commented 5 years ago

@Sunwellxd give any proff about spell priority pls.If lk is doing w/e he wants by priority then how we will know on dbm what is coming next and when?There is only one timers set on dbm what is coming and when.They dont change based on LK priority.

Philliipe commented 5 years ago

Will add more information about this bug:

If defile and val'kyrs should be cast at the "same" time. It should be picked random which one to be 1st

If it's Summon Val'kyr defile should be delayed for about 3 sec after the 3rd valk is summoned. https://youtu.be/Fh7kQkQkLik?t=6m22s

If it's defile 1st then, Summon Val'kyr should be delayed for around 4-6 sec. Soul reaper and Infest may be cast during that time. https://youtu.be/f2rywsW2H2A?t=4m52s

Lich king can cast Soul Reaper and Infest during Summon val'kyr spawns. If defile, soul reaper and infest get same timer. They should prio dis way: Defile --> Infest -> Soul Reaper https://youtu.be/f2rywsW2H2A?t=5m24s

Additional info: Val'kyr 1st

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k9lp4yw68u6s1asl/xe/?x=sourceName+%3D+%22The+Lich+King%22%0D%0Aand+type+%3D+6+and+spell+%3D+%22Soul+Reaper%22+%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Defile%22+and+type+%3D+6%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Summon+Val%27kyr%22%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Quake%22+%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Infest%22+and+type+%3D+6%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Harvest+Souls%22+and+type+%3D+6%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Vile+Spirits%22

Defile 1st

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/81eia26l3k2b6xku/xe/?s=6509&e=7401&x=sourceName+%3D+%22The+Lich+King%22%0D%0Aand+type+%3D+6+and+spell+%3D+%22Soul+Reaper%22+%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Defile%22+and+type+%3D+6%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Summon+Val%27kyr%22%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Quake%22+%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Infest%22+and+type+%3D+6

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/l8q2n8j5edqaioyi/xe/?s=8055&e=8997&x=sourceName+%3D+%22The+Lich+King%22%0D%0Aand+type+%3D+6+and+spell+%3D+%22Soul+Reaper%22+%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Defile%22+and+type+%3D+6%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Summon+Val%27kyr%22%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Quake%22+%0D%0Aor+spell+%3D+%22Infest%22+and+type+%3D+6