[Raid] Gruul's Lair - Githubissues

Adamsek commented 5 years ago

1. Trashes and overall things:

[x] I was able to pull trashes behind gate with HKM still alive, mobs there shouldn't be targetable.
[x] When one minion from a pack is killed and other is not after raid-wipe the killed one should respawn, for now killed mob is not respawning.
[x] One patrolling mob behind the gate is Gronn Priest, it should be Lair Brute, becouse of fact that every patrolling mob is Lair Brute.
[x] Gronn-Priest and Lair Brute are not immune to poly, stuns, snares etc. Both of them should be immune to everything, except that Gronn-Priest heals should be interruptable (kick, pummel, counterspell etc.)
[x] According to first patch of TBC, only one token per boss should drop.

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Gruul%27s_Lair

[x] There is no visual effect of Lair Brute's charge, what's more charge is hitting tank (should be minimum range of 8y) and if it hits any member of raid the damage is too high, according to wiki it should be about 700 dmg and stun only.
[x] When Lair Brute is near death (10%) he is not calling for help of other ogres (40y range).
[x] He is using his Mortal Strike really weird, i was hit by it standing about 15y away from him.

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Lair_Brute

2. High King Maulgar

[x] Kiggler the Crazed has bugged melee attack and has wrong interaction with tank who run in and out of melee range, he's not atacking with melee when tank is in range and occasionally casting lightning bolts.
[x] Blindeye the Seer has too low melee damage, should hit +100/150% more
[x] Olm the Summoner should use Dark Decay more often and debuff should stack on a tank (at the moment first debuff is gone when olm casting next).
[x] Wild Stalkers after enslaving don't have their spell bars to be used by warlocks

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/High_King_Maulgar

3. Gruul the Dragonkiller

[x] Gruul's HP is too low (too easy to kill :D) should be about 5.6M HP as pre-nerf boss.
[x] When Gruul takes aggro from someone behind the gate, encounter resets.

I need to admit that we check it once, there could be some other minor bugs we didn't notice, but i listed the most impactful. Damage from spells and melee attacks seems fine, but there is a chance that particular mobs should hit more.

babno commented 5 years ago

Adding onto yours, after the first shatter he does not move. He doesn't evade but just sits still and takes whatever ranged damaged you do till dead. If you move into melee he will attack you.

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

Adding to yours

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Lair Brute

[x] Lair Brute casts Mortal Strike on random people instead of the tank.
[x] The random Charge does not wipe threat.
[x] "These "trash" mobs 1-shot most of the classes and (looks like they) do a random secondary target "charge" so are really hard to tank." Hits for 4000-4500 on leather, not nearly enough to one shot most classes. Increase damage by 3k?

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=19389/lair-brute#comments http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Lair_Brute

Gronn-Priest

[x] Gronn-Priest only heal themselves
[x] Should hit for 1500-2000 more

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Gronn-Priest

[x] All trash respawns even if the boss they are linked to is dead, it shouldn't.

Maulgar

Maulgar

[x] Maulgar Dual-wielding, should no do this until 50%. Wrong weapon model. (He should reduce his damage by 50% when he swaps to dual-wield to make up for the faster attacks+flurry.) https://github.com/Looking4Group/L4G_Core/issues/2766
[x] Casts Arcing Smash during Whirlwind https://i.gyazo.com/6cbe8ad96afc19a87462b1303d26029e.png
[x] Still moves at full speed during whirlwind, should be 50% speed.

Kiggler

[x] Kiggler does not lower your threat when he casts Arcane Explosion.
[x] Arcane Shock does not interrupt spells for 5 seconds (you even continue casting as you fly away from the knockback).

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Kiggler_the_Crazed

Blindeye the Seer

[x] Blindeye the Seer melees for 480-780 (on leather), should hit for 1400-2400

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Blindeye_the_Seer

Olm the Summoner

[x] Olm the Summoner the Wild Fel Stalker he summons despawns shortly after he summons a new one. They should need to be killed or banished until the fight is completely over, that's when they should despawn.
[x] Olm the Summoner's Death Coil shows up as a buff instead of a debuff, you can even right click it. It should also be cast more often. Here: 20 sec CD. Retail: 10-15 sec.
[x] Wiki says: "Casts a heavy shadow DoT which cannot be removed and stacks". Dark Decay is not cast nearly often enough to get more than one stack. It drops off and takes a few seconds before he casts it again. Here it seems to be around 20 seconds between the DoT applications, should be 6-9 seconds.
[x] Olm should summon the first Wild Fel Stalker way earlier, as they are ment to tank him. In this video he casts it after getting shot by an arcane shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4302sPx4k-U Instantly in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0teB1CU2QI&feature=youtu.be&t=8 On sunwell: after 15 seconds.
[x] Wild Fel Stalker missing ability when you Enslave them; Taunt, https://www.wowhead.com/spell=33096/threaten. +Wild bite

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Olm_the_Summoner http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/High_King_Maulgar https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y3Jf9kqP_9jzAQcPkgKzvlSecLS3ui3diQ7Ku-z11P4/edit#gid=511402210 https://github.com/Looking4Group/L4G_Core/issues/2212 https://github.com/Looking4Group/L4G_Core/issues/2207

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

Very good research: https://github.com/Schaka/TBC-research/issues/20

Riztazz commented 5 years ago

re-test please after ptr update

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

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[x] Lair Brute(19389) - Not charging
[x] Lair Brute(19389) - Call for help doesn't work/range too small
[x] Lair Brute(19389, GUID 81647) - Is linked to GUID 65618 and GUID 83206 when pulled, shouldn't be the case

High King Maulgar

[x] Weapon is tiny, should be as twice as big
[x] Below 50% he uses charge during whirlwind
[x] Nearly always hits with his left hand during p2
[x] Charges the main tank? Not sure if this is supposed to happen

Olm the Summoner

[x] Melee damage might be low, 3000-3500 on Leather, Wowwiki says 5000

Kiggler the Crazed

[x] Lightning Bolt damage is low, 1500, Wowwiki says 3000

Gruul

[x] Aggro range feels way too small. See video 3.35 https://youtu.be/IPinkYtXCv8?t=3m28s
[x] Shatter cast delayed, should happened 1 seconds after players get 'Stoned'
[x] Shatter damage max 6100 when standing on top of each other, Wowwiki says 8500(with gear on) if very close. See screenshot, 6653 with gear on while standing 8-10 yards away
[x] Gruul stuck after Shatter, should rush to highest threat target from before the ground slam
[x] Hateful strike doesn't hit targets at max melee range
[ ] Doesn't target and turn to the target of the Hateful strike
[x] Melee range increases with grows
- Counts for both his melee range as well as his melee hitbox
- Does not apply to his hatefull strike range
- At high stacks(around 15+) the difference between being able to melee and shoot your bow is 1 step
[x] Can use Blessing of Protection when silenced
[x] Blessing of Protection does not remove the slow but does make you immune to 'Stoned'. (Shouldn't work on either spell)
[x] Only one Cave in up at a time, should be multiple pre-nerf, see video at 3.42 there's one in the melee and one behind the priest https://youtu.be/tp-yqVtLeYA?t=3m42s
[x] You can LoS Cave in by using the pillars in the back, debuff just keeps getting refreshed but doesn't do damage
[x] Ice Block and Divine Shield works in the opposite that they should. You should be immune to the shatter damage taken, but you should not be able to remove the slow. The only thing that removes slow should be cloak of shadows.

Video of mage using ice block: https://youtu.be/v8uD8DnlRWI?t=1m42s

This can only be dispelled by complete Immunity effects and Cloak of Shadows (possibly escape artist; Blessing of Protection does NOT work). Players who dispel Gronn Lord's Grasp will STILL Shatter, which makes it important that they still stay away from others.

Although wowwiki does state

Shatter: After being Stoned, Gruul will shatter everyone, the damage dealt increases if players are closer to each other. This damage is physical, and goes through immunity shields such as Divine Shield and Ice Block. Ranges from 1100 if just within 15+ yards to over 8.5k if very close. Pets do not cause damage or get damage with this ability, but get stunned anyway.

But this doesn't change that these spells shouldn't remove the slow. Maybe they changed so damage could go through in a later patch.

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Gruul_the_Dragonkiller

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

Found this: http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Gruul_the_Dragonkiller?oldid=642044

Cave In: Random AoE which causes ~3000 damage every 3 seconds in the area. This occurs more frequently in later stages. This counts as melee damage and can be mitigated by armor. Growth also affects Cave In.

Suggesting that it should happen more often as the fight goes on.

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

Shatter: After being Stoned, Gruul will shatter everyone, the damage dealt increasing if players are closer to each other. If players are 0yds between each other, the damage dealt will be around 5000. The more apart players are, the less damage is taken - no damage will be taken if players are 15yds(changed in recent patch from 20yds) away or more.

Pre nerf shatter should be 20 yds. Might be a bit too crazy?

Silroth commented 5 years ago

@notsofamous Pre-nerf Shatter range and damage should be added here, if i remember correctly the pre-nerf Shatter damage for 0 yards is around 9k, will add more info later on.

Also regarding this "Hateful strike doesn't hit targets at max melee range", this is not a bug but hitbox issue from retail, Hateful Strike tank needs to hug Gruul if he wants to soak up Hateful Strike.

Shatter February 8, 2007 wiki says: Stone fall down and cause shatter, physical damage 9000, radius 20 yards, pets should get stunned but take no damage from it or contribute to damage of other nearby players. NOTE: Shatter should ignore armor but not damage reducing abilities such as Shield Wall.

Gruul baseattacktime should be 1800.

Currently his Ground Slam is used 35 seconds after pull (initial timer should be 60 seconds after pull) and he has a slight delay on his Shatter.

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

We tried it, it did 8.7k without any armor, 6100 when wearing leather gear and standing right on top of each other. In that screenshot the guy is wearing mail and taking 6.6k while ~8 yds away.

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

Added a task to the list.

Riztazz commented 5 years ago

Re-test after PTR update please (will happen in about 30 mins or so)

Silroth commented 5 years ago

Shatter should ignore armor and that guy is standing more than 8 yards away.

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

I could not find a source of shatter ignoring armor, got a link?

Riztazz commented 5 years ago

Shatter ignoring armor makes sense, most of mechanics like that across expansions do ignore armor, also based on your screenshots, vids and so on - it makes even more sense for it to ignore armor (damage complaints above:P)

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

Trash

[x] The static trash packs in Gruul's lair should be a random composition of Brutes and Priests.
[x] The patrols should always be Brutes.
[x] People reported trash instantly spawning on open beta, could not reproduce on closed beta.

Kiggler the Crazed

[x] Weird AI, if you run out of range he will run to the position you were when you got out of range. He should only attempt to chase you to try to get in range of his own lightning bolt.

Olm the Summoner

[x] Summoned minions all despawn when he dies (general problem for all master/minion relationships).

Maulgar

[x] Shouldn't drop badges
[x] If a tank gets feared or death coiled the NPC should go for a different target (general pre 2.3 mechanic for all fears/coils)

Creature AI has been changed to no longer prioritize attacking unfeared targets over feared targets.

Gruul

[x] Aggro range still way too small (double it?)
[x] Gruul should only drop 1 token, 2 epics + gold. Remove Badges and 2 tokens.

Riztazz commented 5 years ago

re-test after ptr update please

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

[ ] Brutes never seem to charge/should charge way more often.
[ ] Run speed of Maulgar and his adds are too slow, can be kited super easily.
[ ] Can't right click Wild Fel Stalker abilities Determination or Threaten on the bars for auto cast. Have to go into spellbook to make them auto cast. Wild Bite works properly.
[ ] Kiggler's Arcane Shock is missing its DoT component. Not sure how much it should tick for, shouldn't be a lot.

Arcane Shock, 720–800 damage plus additional damage every 3 secs for 12 secs. Ranged attack he uses infrequently on the person with the highest threat. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/High_King_Maulgar#toc

[ ] NPCs during the Maulgar fight do not go for the second threat target if the target is feared/death coiled/polymorphed.
[ ] If you kill Maulgar with his adds alive and run out of the instance, they will not reset properly. 2 of the adds fell through the ground and the other 2 ran to the portal and stood there.
[ ] Gruul aggro range is now a few yards too big, you should juuuust about be able to move around the outer edge of the room without pulling him. (Sorry for nagging about this!!!)
[ ] Gold loot seems bugged again, always drops a static 250g each kill. It was more random the other day!

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

From WoW bestiary (patch 2.3)

Gruul's Lair

Lair Brute: N/A
Gronn Priest: 6304-8907
High King Maulgar: 12214-17270
Olm the Summoner: 4104-5792
Krosh Firehand: 4101-5792
Kiggler the Crazed: 6834-9653
Blindeye the Seer: 1724-2435
Wild Fel Stalker: 1474-2084
Gruul: 6904-9761

notsofamous commented 5 years ago

Trash

[ ] Brutes don't reset threat when they charge

Maulgar

[ ] Olm the summoner doesn't cast death coil

Gruul

[ ] Totem's do shatter damage to players
[ ] Ground slam doesn't sometimes fully stun you before shatter

Wojtyas commented 5 years ago

Clearing this one cuz its overspammed. Creating one final with new report + leftovers from here.

SunwellWoW / Sunwell-TBC-Bugtracker

[Raid] Gruul's Lair #173

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Maulgar