Closed Hnidka closed 6 years ago
Should be noted that databases like Hellfire one dont show real base damage for mobs, for example the same Hellfire database shows that Magtheridon base damage is 32,231 - 38,276, Archimonde is listed as having 54,547 - 58,003 base damage which would make the boss fights impossible.
EDIT Another example that Hellfire database shows base damage to be higher than normal, Shattered Hand Heathen mob in normal Shattered Halls should have 1014-1431 base damage (Source is World of Warcraft Beastiary) while on Hellfire database it is shown that the mob has 1,320 - 1,737 base damage, comparing those two base damages for example you will notice the Hellfire database one shows exactly 25% higher damage than it should be. Warchief Kargath Bladefist in normal Shattered Halls should have 1388-1963 base damage (Beastiary) while on Hellfire database it is shown he has 1,807 - 2,382 which is exactly 25% increase.
EDIT 2 I havent checked your other posts regarding the mob damage but if you made same mistake you should correct it otherwise there are gona be alot of players corpse running especially in 1-10 zones where players dont have access to gear that increases their health/damage output.
I'm not sure about that. If we increase their damage to proposed values, you could be killed by random mobs just with 3-4 melee hits (maybe 5-6, but that's just melee without spells). I don't think that's right :(. Needs more research. I'll try to check it after vanilla instances.
Nevertheless great report, i'll check those npcs that are stuck.
i just know for sure that they have low dmg cause i remember it... if u pull 2-3mobs in vanilla u have no chance to survive... im lvl 12 with 200hp(no items 50armor) and 16lvl Ravager gimme 15dmg ? thats joke :D maybe im wrong but pls check it... :D
or that npc Void Anomaly Level: 15 - 16 - Guid 63150 , Entry 17550 they giving full XP ratio and deal 1 dmg...
Vile Fin Muckdweller Vanilla https://classicdb.ch/?npc=1545 20 - 24 TBC http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=1545 27 - 32
It doesnt make sense that Blizzard would increase damage of all mobs in TBC by 25% or more especially in low level zones.
EDIT To show other databases for comparison http://tbc.cavernoftime.com/npc=1545 50 - 54 https://db.excalibur.ws/?npc=1545 14 - 18
Excalibur database seems to be the most correct one and heres the example Magtheridon on Excalibur versus Magtheridon Beastiary https://db.excalibur.ws/?npc=21174 Base damage 16,204 - 20,435 World of Warcraft Beastiary Base damage 14604-20649
So for future posts you should compare between Excalibur and Hellfire databases and see what is the most reasonable one, if you are unsure what is the correct one post both values with a comment and devs can decide which one is the closest to correct.
About that low dmg... my “should be” values are incorect i will rewrite it today... wow freakz site has vanilla npcs stats
done
Updated.
TO DO:
DONE:
[x] All Bloodmyst Isle NPCs deal low dmg (spells,psychical)....
[x] NPC -Tzerak- Guid 84399 , Entry 17528 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17528 His dmg is too low (13-20) should be (18 - 28)
[x] NPC -Deathclaw- Guid 63385 , Entry 17661 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17661 His dmg is too low (15-22) should be (25 - 37)
[x] NPC -Royal Blue Flutterer- Guid 62662, Entry 17350 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17350#drop His dmg is too low (10-18) should be (22 - 33)
[x] NPC -Blacksilt Warrior- Guid 62230 , Entry 17329 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17329 His dmg is too low (13-20) should be (25 - 37)
[x] NPC -Mutated Constrictor- Guid 62530 , Entry 17344 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17344 His dmg is too low (13-20) should be (20 - 31)
[x] NPC -Void Anomaly - Guid 63150 , Entry 17550 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17550#objective-of His dmg is too low (1-2) should be (22 - 33)
[x] NPC -Infected Wildkin - Guid 62126 , Entry 17322 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17322 His dmg is too low (5-14) should be (20 - 31)
[x] NPC -Irradiated Wildkin - Guid 62155 , Entry 17324 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17324 His dmg is too low (6-14) should be (22 - 33)
[x] NPC -Contaminated Wildkin - Guid 62143 , Entry 17323 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17323 His dmg is too low (6-14) should be (22 - 33)
[x] NPC -Thistle Lasher - Guid 62511 , Entry 17343 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17343 His dmg is too low (10-16) should be (14 - 21)
[x] NPC -Grizzled Brown Bear - Guid 62630 , Entry 17347 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17347#abilities His dmg is too low (11-16) should be (16 - 24)
[x] NPC -Lord Xiz - Guid 63448 , Entry 17701 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17701 His dmg is too low (11-16) should be (16 - 24)
[x] NPC -Blue Flutterer - Guid 62660 , Entry 17349 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17349#abilities Does not use ability: Rake His dmg is too low (5-10) should be (12 - 18)
[x] NPC -Bloodmyst Hatchling - Guid 63097 , Entry 17525 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17525#objective-of Does not use ability: Rake His dmg is too low (5-10) should be (12 - 18)
[x] NPC -Bristlelimb Shaman - Guide 62091 , Entry 17320 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17320#abilities His dmg is too low (8-15) should be (12 - 19) Does not use ability: Flame Shock Does not use ability: Scorching Totem (they are spawned but moving like independent npc :D)
[x] NPC -Bristlelimb Warrior - Guid 62109 , Entry 17321 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17321#abilities His dmg is too low (10-17) should be (15 - 22) Does not use ability: Strike
[x] NPC -High Chief Bristlelimb - Guid 84085 , Entry 17702 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17702#abilities His dmg is too low (10-17) should be (18 - 27) Does not use ability: Demoralizing Roar Does not use ability: Maul
[x] NPC -Wrathscale Screamer - Guid 62304 , Entry 17333 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17333#abilities His dmg is too low (7-12) should be (10 - 16) Does not use ability: Scream
[x] NPC -Wrathscale Shorestalker - Guid 62286 , Entry 17331 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17331#abilities His dmg is too low (15-30) should be (24 - 36) Does not use ability: Strike
[x] NPCs Stucked - Guid 84428 , Entry 18034 / Guid 63727 , Entry 18025
[x] NPC -Wrathscale Marauder - Guid 62321 , Entry 17334 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17334#abilities His dmg is too low (10-18) should be (18 - 28) Does not use ability: Pummel
[x] NPC -Wrathscale Sorceress - Guid 62341 , Entry 17336 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17336#abilities His dmg is too low (6-12) should be (12 - 18) Does not use ability: Frostbolt
[x] NPC -Enraged Ravager - Guid 95034 , Entry 17527
http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17527#abilities His dmg is too low (12-18) should be (25 - 37) Does not use ability: Enrage Does not use ability: Ravage
[x] NPC -Corrupted Stomper - Guid 62700 , Entry 17353
http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17353#abilities His dmg is too low (15-25) should be (27 - 40) Does not use ability: Stomp
[x] NPC -Mutated Tangler - Guid 62579 , Entry 17346
http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17346#abilities His dmg is too low (16-26) should be (27 - 40) Does not use ability: Entangling Roots
[x] NPC -Sunhawk Pyromancer - Guid 63302 , Entry 17608 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17608#abilities His dmg is too low (6-12) should be (26 - 39) Does not use ability: Concussive Shot Does not use ability: Fireball Does not use ability: Immolate Does not use ability: Mark of the Sunhawk
[x] NPC -Sironas - Guid 63402 , Entry 17678 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17678#abilities Does not use ability: Curse of Blood Does not use ability: Curse of Tongues Does not use ability: Shadow Cleave Does not use ability: Uppercut
[x] NPC -Sunhawk Saboteur - Guid 63327, Entry 17609 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17609#abilities His dmg is too low (30-40) should be (44 - 66) Does not use ability: Mark of the Sunhawk Does not use ability: Multi-Shot Does not use ability: Shoot
[x] NPC -Myst Leecher - Guid 63050 , Entry 17523 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17523#abilities His dmg is too low (16-27) should be (27 - 40) Does not use ability: Leech Poison
[x] NPC -Veridian Broodling - Guid 63219 , Entry 17589 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17589#abilities Does not use ability: Poison Bolt
[x] NPC -Veridian Whelp - Guid 63189 , Entry 17588 https://www.wow-freakz.com/npc_finder.php?npc=17588&name=veridian-whelp Does not use ability: Sleep
[ ] Stucked Npcs - Blacksilt shore
[x] 1. There should be no perm spawns of Lesser Scorching Totem nps (18795).
[x] 5. NPC -Sunhawk Reclaimer - Guid 63266 , Entry 17606
http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17606#abilities His dmg is too low (12-19) should be (17 - 26) Does not use ability: Exploit Weakness Does not use ability: Fireball Does not use ability: Frost Armor Does not use ability: Mark of the Sunhawk EDIT: Still doesn't use Mark of the Sunhawk (31734) and Exploit Weakness (8355) spells.
[x] 6. Sironas (17678) shouldn't have random movements when out of combat.
[x] 7. NPC -Blacksilt Shorestriker - Guid 62217 , Entry 17328 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17328#abilities His dmg is too low (12-20) should be (21 - 32) Does not use ability: Net EDIT: He still doesn't use his Net spell.
[x] 9. NPC -Corrupted Treant - Guid 62693 , Entry 17352
http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17606#abilities His dmg is too low (7-13) should be (16 - 24) Does not use ability: Stone Skin Passive EDIT: Still doesn't have this aura.
[x] 12. Vindicator Corin (17986) and Demolitionist Legoso (17982) shouldn't have random movements.
[x] 13. Demolitionist Legoso has missing text.
[x] 14. There should be no perm spawns of Strength of Earth Totem (5874). Should be spawned only by spell.
[x] 16. NPC -Myst Spinner - Guid 63029 , Entry 17522 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17522#abilities His dmg is too low (12-23) should be (25 - 37) Does not use ability: Web EDIT: Still doesn't use Web spell.
[x] 17. NPC -Fouled Water Spirit - Guid 63029 , Entry 17522 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17358#abilities Does not use ability: Bloodbolt Does not use ability: Bloodmyst Chill EDIT: Still missing AI. Doesn't use both of spells. Should act like caster and melee only when out of mana.
[x] 18. Veridian Broodling (17589) should cast his Poison Bolt spell entire time. For now he takes breaks between casts and stay in place. When oom he should melee.
[x] 1. Bristlelimb Shaman (18795) spawns Lesser Scorching Totem but it's neutral and doesn't attack players once summoned. Should be hostile and attack players immediately after spawn. Also creature should spawn this totem faster after pull.
[x] 2. Wrathscale Sorceress (17336) should be focused on casting her newly added Frostbolt spells. She runs over players with melee attacks instead of casting. Her casts are "time to time". EDIT: She should cast spells continuingly
[x] 3. NPC -Sunhawk Spy - Guid 63240 , Entry 17604
http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17604#abilities His dmg is too low (12-18) should be (18 - 28) Does not use ability: Demoralizing Shout Does not use ability: Hamstring Does not use ability: Heroic Strike Does not use ability: Mark of the Sunhawk EDIT: Still no Heroic Strike and Mark of the Sunhawk spells.
[x] 4. NPC -Blacksilt Seer - Guid 62249 , Entry 17330 (missing mana stat) http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17330#abilities His dmg is too low (12-20) should be (17 - 26) Does not use ability: Rejuvenation Does not use ability: Wrath EDIT: Still no Reju spell. He should cast Wrath spells more often.
[x] 5. NPC -Blacksilt Tidecaller - Guid 62206 , Entry 17327
http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17327#abilities His dmg is too low (6-12) should be (10 - 16) Does not use ability: Lightning Shield Does not use ability: Rejuvenation EDIT: They should refresh LS even when out of combat.
[x] 6. NPC -Sunhawk Defender - Guid 63288 , Entry 17607 http://db.hellfire-tbc.com/?npc=17607#abilities His dmg is too low (13-22) should be (25 - 37) Does not use ability: Backhand Does not use ability: Cleave Does not use ability: Whirlwind Does not use ability: Mark of the Sunhawk EDIT: Still doesn't use his Whirlwind (31737) spell.
[x] 7. Sunhawk Saboteur (17609) is focused on melee so he use his spells ultra rare. He should act like ranger. EDIT: really hard to figure out what this npc doing ;p he runs over players with melee, after half minute of running he stay in place to cast only multi-shot spell every 12 seconds. He doesn't use Shoot spell.
[x] 8. Researcher Cornelius (17686) shouldn have random movements.
[x] 10. NPC -Bloodcursed Naga - Guid 63474 , Entry 17713 https://www.wow-freakz.com/npc_finder.php?npc=17713&name=bloodcursed-naga Does not use ability: Frostbolt EDIT: weird npc. does not moving at all, melee only when player comes to him and still doesnt use frostbolt